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From: joakim@verona.se
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Concurrency, again
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 23:24:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d1j5jm5p.fsf@chopper> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161012165911.58437154@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (Perry E. Metzger's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2016 16:59:11 -0400")

"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> writes:

> On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 15:43:12 -0400 Stefan Monnier
> <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> wrote:
>> - I want semantic-mode to scan my buffers in the background and to
>> scan several buffers at the same time, to make use of my 8 cores.
>>   The concurrency branch doesn't really try to solve this problem.
>>   I'm not sure what's the best way to solve this problem, and I
>> don't even know what would be a "simple" way to solve this problem.
>
> One possibility: move to a multiple processes paradigm where each
> buffer has an associated process, and global variable values are
> propagated via message passing to a master process. Think Hoare's CSP
> or Go or Erlang for precedents, though perhaps with more sugaring to
> make it easy for Emacs users to not think much about global state.

It would be useful if this kind of model could be utilized over a
network connection. For instance to share buffers between emacsen
running on different machines.

>
> This sort of model might be especially important if Emacs starts
> being used as a serious web browser by lots of its community, given
> how much CPU modern browsers can eat.
>
> Perry

-- 
Joakim Verona
joakim@verona.se




  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-12 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 348+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-11 16:29 Guile emacs thread (again) Christopher Allan Webber
2014-09-14 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-16 14:43 ` Grim Schjetne
2014-09-16 15:50 ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Stefan Monnier
2014-09-16 16:03   ` Lennart Borgman
2014-09-17 18:24     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-09-17 18:42       ` Emacs Lisp's future Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-17 19:25       ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Lally Singh
2014-09-18  2:07       ` Alexis
2014-09-18 16:40         ` Emacs Lisp's future Daniel Colascione
2014-09-18 21:54           ` Regular expression creation [was: Re: Emacs Lisp's future] Alexis
2014-09-18 23:37             ` Aurélien Aptel
2014-09-19  0:00               ` Alexis
2014-09-19  2:12                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 10:07                   ` Alexis
2014-09-26 15:25                     ` Filipp Gunbin
2014-09-19 18:04             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-09-18  6:35       ` Emacs Lisp's future Andreas Röhler
2014-09-18 15:17         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 16:19           ` Ivan Andrus
2014-09-18 23:19             ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  7:18               ` Andreas Röhler
2014-09-19  8:10             ` Andreas Schwab
2014-09-19  8:46               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  8:43     ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Emilio Lopes
2014-09-16 16:09   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-16 16:54   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-17 15:14     ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 16:57       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-16 16:59   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-16 22:58     ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-16 23:10       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 13:55       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 15:19         ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 16:23           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 18:10             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17  5:04     ` mhw
2014-09-17 14:03       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 14:39         ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 15:11           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 10:48   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-17 10:53     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17 11:21       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 11:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 13:50         ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 11:17   ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 11:35     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17 12:50     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 13:54       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 14:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 14:30           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 15:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 15:10           ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 18:04             ` performance isn't a concern in ... " Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17 19:08               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  7:54             ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-17 15:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 15:07       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 15:33         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 20:11           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 22:42             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-09-18  2:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18  3:17               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  9:04                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18  9:27                   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 11:15                     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18  3:46             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  9:53               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 10:09                 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 11:29                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 12:07                     ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 14:12                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 14:56                         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 15:36                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 16:44                             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 17:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 17:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 20:21     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 12:48       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 14:15       ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 14:34         ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 15:01           ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 16:08             ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 16:18               ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 19:23               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18 23:18               ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  0:00                 ` Rasmus
2014-09-19  8:00                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-19 10:46                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-19 11:12                       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-19 16:16                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-19 11:38                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-19 18:02                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19 11:53                       ` Rasmus
2014-09-19 18:01                     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                     ` <<E1XV2UO-0005CA-Vk@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-09-19 18:43                       ` Drew Adams
2014-09-18 23:17           ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  0:03             ` Rasmus
2014-09-19 10:27               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-09-23  7:45               ` Emilio Lopes
2014-09-26 16:50               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2014-09-26 18:23                 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2014-09-29  8:33                   ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-29 13:19                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-29 14:47                       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-30  7:58                     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 12:19                       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-30 16:15                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-30 18:21                         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 19:18                           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 16:15                       ` Nicolas Richard
2014-09-30 17:54                         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 18:19                           ` Drew Adams
2014-09-26 20:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18 23:17         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 23:37           ` Rasmus
2014-09-19  2:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19  6:26             ` Adding packages to ELPA (was: Emacs Lisp's future) Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-19  6:47               ` Adding packages to ELPA Rasmus
2014-09-19 13:47                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 13:56                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-19 16:27                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 12:31               ` Sam Steingold
2014-09-19 13:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-19 14:29                   ` Sam Steingold
2014-09-19 13:26                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 13:39                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-19 14:44                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 15:00                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-19 15:41                         ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-19 15:45                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-19 18:03                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19 16:34                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 17:30                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-19 18:13                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-20 16:09                             ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 16:23                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-21 15:05                                 ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 20:02                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-20 16:00                         ` Stephen Leake
2014-09-20 16:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-22  7:53                             ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-22 14:50                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-22 19:34                                 ` SP? {Spam?} " Phillip Lord
2014-09-19 18:02                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19 18:02                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-17 22:49     ` Emacs Lisp's future Daniel Colascione
2014-09-17 12:46   ` Eric Brown
2014-09-17 13:33     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 13:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 15:11         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 20:23     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-17 21:13   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-20 19:31   ` Robin Templeton
2016-10-07 10:47   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-10-07 11:03     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2016-10-07 11:27       ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-10-07 11:48         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2016-10-08 14:00           ` Ben
2016-10-08 15:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-07 12:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-08  8:23       ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-08 12:07         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-08 14:26           ` Nicolas Petton
2016-10-08 20:57         ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-08 21:40           ` Nicolas Petton
2016-10-08 22:15           ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-10  9:00             ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-11  1:42               ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-11  7:47                 ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-11 14:44                   ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-12  3:17                 ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-13 21:23                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-13 21:35                     ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-17  0:44                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-10  4:09           ` Georges Ko
2016-10-10  4:51             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-10 13:56               ` Georges Ko
2016-10-11  4:06                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-11  4:18                   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11  7:16                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-11 13:33                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11 14:54                         ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-11 15:10                           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11 17:55                             ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-11 17:08                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-10 15:26             ` raman
2016-10-07 15:32     ` Kelvin White
2016-10-07 16:18     ` Søren Pilgård
2016-10-07 16:25       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-10-08  2:09       ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-08 20:58         ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-07 17:07     ` John Wiegley
2016-10-09 12:03       ` Toon Claes
2016-10-09 12:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10  2:59           ` John Wiegley
2016-10-10  7:17             ` Concurrency, again (was: Emacs Lisp's future) Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10 15:42               ` Concurrency, again Paul Eggert
2016-10-12 12:47               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-12 15:24                 ` raman
2016-10-12 16:42                 ` John Wiegley
2016-10-12 17:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 18:01                     ` John Wiegley
2016-10-12 19:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-12 19:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-12 20:59                         ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-12 21:20                           ` Søren Pilgård
2016-10-12 21:33                             ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-12 22:31                               ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-12 23:33                                 ` John Wiegley
2016-10-13  5:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13 13:27                                 ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-13 15:05                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-13 17:25                                     ` John Wiegley
2016-10-13 18:14                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-14 21:01                                         ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-14 21:48                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-15  1:24                                           ` John Wiegley
2016-10-15  5:48                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-15 22:03                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-16  0:38                                               ` John Wiegley
2016-10-16  6:40                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-17  0:43                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-17  6:10                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 13:34                                         ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-25 22:28                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-10-13 19:34                                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-13 19:49                                         ` John Wiegley
2016-10-14 15:26                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-14 15:47                                         ` Michael Albinus
2016-10-14 16:57                                           ` John Wiegley
2016-10-14 18:03                                           ` John Wiegley
2016-10-14 18:06                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-15  7:16                                             ` Michael Albinus
2016-10-17 14:13                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-17 18:33                                         ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-17 18:41                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-14 17:01                                       ` Stefan Huchler
2016-10-17 14:53                                       ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-17 16:07                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-17 16:34                                           ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-17 16:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-17 17:53                                               ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-17 18:06                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-10-18  3:27                                                   ` Stefan Huchler
2016-10-18 14:34                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-10-18 14:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-18 15:05                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-10-18 15:36                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-18 19:26                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-10-18 15:15                                                       ` joakim
2016-10-18 16:20                                                       ` Stefan Huchler
2016-10-18 18:37                                                       ` Browsers inside Emacs (was Re: Concurrency, again) Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-17 18:19                                                 ` Concurrency, again Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-18 19:47                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-18 19:47                                             ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-18 20:29                                               ` Web browsing (was Re: Concurrency, again) Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-19 19:57                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-19 20:44                                                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-20 18:04                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-19  8:52                                               ` Concurrency, again Ricardo Wurmus
2016-10-19 13:07                                                 ` Emacs as browser (was Re: Concurrency, again) Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-19 20:02                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-19 20:38                                                     ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-20  7:33                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20 15:15                                                         ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-20 15:42                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20 22:22                                                             ` Cairo bugs (was Re: Emacs as browser (was Re: Concurrency, again)) Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-21  7:31                                                             ` Emacs as browser (was Re: Concurrency, again) Dov Grobgeld
2016-10-21 19:43                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-23  6:23                                                                 ` Dov Grobgeld
2016-10-23  9:39                                                                   ` Dov Grobgeld
2016-10-23 10:26                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-20 18:15                                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-10-20 18:41                                                           ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-20 20:56                                                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-10-21  1:45                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-20 19:24                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20 20:33                                                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-10-21  6:53                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-21 12:39                                                                 ` Tookits (was Re: Emacs as browser) Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-21 12:57                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-21 13:45                                                                     ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-20 18:04                                                       ` Emacs as browser (was Re: Concurrency, again) Richard Stallman
2016-10-20 18:30                                                         ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-20 18:57                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-21  1:45                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-21  3:09                                                             ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-25 13:30                                     ` Concurrency, again Philipp Stephani
2016-10-12 21:24                           ` joakim [this message]
2016-10-12 18:19                   ` John Wiegley
2016-10-15  4:45                     ` SAKURAI Masashi
2016-10-17 15:29                       ` Perry E. Metzger
2016-10-18  3:14                     ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-18  6:18                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-18  7:58                       ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-18  9:22                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-18 10:08                           ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-18 10:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-19 10:18                               ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-19 11:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20  6:08                                   ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-20  7:54                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-20  7:12                                 ` Herring, Davis
2016-10-20  7:55                                   ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-20 16:22                                     ` Paul Eggert
2016-10-18 10:46                         ` Alan Third
2016-10-19  7:02                           ` Ken Raeburn
2016-10-18 14:04                         ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-25 13:27                   ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-25 16:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 16:45                       ` John Wiegley
2016-10-25 16:48                         ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-25 17:04                           ` Stefan Huchler
2016-10-25 18:43                             ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-25 21:44                               ` John Wiegley
2016-10-25 23:28                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-27 17:27                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-27 19:13                                     ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-27 20:55                                       ` Christopher Allan Webber
2016-10-27 21:50                                         ` Daniel Colascione
2016-10-28  7:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-31  6:42                                   ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-26 14:03                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-26 15:09                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 17:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 13:22               ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-25 14:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-25 14:41                   ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-26 13:50                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-26 14:32                       ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-26 14:39                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-10-25 16:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-25 23:47                 ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-10 15:24             ` Emacs Lisp's future raman
2016-10-09 12:43         ` Søren Pilgård
2016-10-09 13:13           ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-09 13:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 19:29 ` Guile emacs thread (again) Lluís
2014-09-17 19:34   ` Lally Singh
2014-09-18 12:23 ` Robin Templeton
2014-09-19  1:15   ` Christopher Allan Webber
2014-09-20 13:20   ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-20 15:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-21 13:35       ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-21 16:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-21 17:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-21 20:09           ` Stefan Monnier

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