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From: Ben Mezger <me@benmezger.nl>
To: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com>
Cc: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why not set Emacs development workflow based on the popular git forges (GitHub, Bitbucket, Gitlab, ect)?
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 11:04:42 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2k0jwtoxm.fsf@benmezger.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGP6PO+VUxYLQNL4gQAidiVneTfLH13ApcjY5_HMgQMB-8rkog@mail.gmail.com>


I don't think a follow-up in this thread is necessary, as there is a
huge thread already in place concerning this discussion, but:

> OTOH, Linux kernel [1] has already adopted GitHub as its development
> platform, which is also complete free and a classic example of
> successful free software.

Not really, no. The Linux's Github repo is only a mirror of the
repository, however, no PR, discussion happen there, and those that do
happen, are ignored.

Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 7:24 PM Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Nowadays, the large software projects often conduct the development on
>> > the workflow supplied by git  forges (GitHub, Bitbucket, GitLab,
>> > etc.). But it seems that Emacs is still developed directly on git, as
>> > described here [1], which makes maintaining GNU Emacs development a
>> > lot of extra work.
>>
>> GitHub, Bitbucket and GitLab require their users to run non-free
>> software, which already disqualifies them for the development of GNU
>> software.
>
> If so, I don't think there is such a complete free platform in the
> world, even the SourceHut you mentioned below, which is also operated,
> at least in part, as a commercial product. OTOH, Linux kernel [1] has
> already adopted GitHub as its development platform, which is also
> complete free and a classic example of successful free software.
>
>> There was recently a discussion (perhaps it is still in progress? I
>> don't know) about moving to SourceHut, but I don't think it's gone
>> anywhere.  The problem seems to be that the present system exists and
>> works, while nobody has sat down and completed the work required to
>> migrate to a new one.
>
> I can't say anything. Almost all Emacs developers and users are
> excellent programmers/scientists/engineers. But excellent people also
> have their own beliefs, quirks and their inner bottom line. Sometimes
> it may not be consistent with the prevailing trend, just like the
> existence of Emacs itself.
>
>> Would you like to volunteer? :D
>
> Technically speaking, I think there are so many guys in Emacs
> community have enough ability to do this.
>
> [1] https://github.com/torvalds/linux
>
> Best, Hongyi


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Kind regards,
Met een vriendelijke groet,
Atenciosamente,

Ben Mezger

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2021-09-04 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-04  6:55 Why not set Emacs development workflow based on the popular git forges (GitHub, Bitbucket, Gitlab, ect)? Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-04  7:13 ` tomas
2021-09-04 11:24 ` Po Lu
2021-09-04 11:34   ` tomas
2021-09-04 11:38     ` Po Lu
2021-09-04 12:11       ` tomas
2021-09-04 12:51         ` Po Lu
2021-09-04 12:50   ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-04 13:28     ` Po Lu
2021-09-05  0:56       ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-05  3:16         ` Po Lu
2021-09-05  4:29           ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-05  7:34             ` Po Lu
2021-09-05  8:02               ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-06  1:06                 ` Po Lu
2021-09-04 13:47     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-09-04 13:58       ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-04 23:25         ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-07 15:09       ` Max Nikulin
2021-09-08  2:02         ` Po Lu
2021-09-08 17:34           ` Max Nikulin
2021-09-08 22:49             ` Tim Cross
2021-09-09  6:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-10  3:39             ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-16 17:24               ` Max Nikulin
2021-09-16 21:03                 ` chad
2021-09-19 17:01                   ` Max Nikulin
2021-09-08 17:38           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-09-04 14:04     ` Ben Mezger [this message]

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