From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: nicola.manca85@gmail.com, ams@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com,
drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28"
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 00:31:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <af5ff7cd-ec5e-a91b-4b4b-4f674762de7f@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831rjcmgn8.fsf@gnu.org>
On 08.09.2020 18:28, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> On 08.09.2020 17:20, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> Once more complex
>>> situation arise, my opinion is that undo-tree is more complex and
>>> harder to grasp than the Emacs undo, so I don't think undo-tree is
>>> better suited to newbies than the default undo.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure undo-tree is better for complex situations thanks to of
>> its visualization interface.
>
> If visualization is the main advantage, we could have visualization
> for the default undo as well. That's not the complex part, and not
> what differentiates between the 2 undo's.
Having separate bindings shouldn't hurt either, especially in said
complex situations.
And try to consider how the visualization would look. I think it would
have to be like a tree (basically, like the one undo-tree paints). Then
it would probably be logical to have at least two different commands
which allow traversing the buffer states in both directions along the
branches of that tree. And presto, we got undo-tree again.
Perhaps I'm lacking in imagination, though.
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2020-09-07 16:45 A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Nicola Manca
2020-09-07 18:08 ` Ergus
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2020-09-07 19:59 ` about fido-mode Ergus
2020-09-07 20:44 ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-07 21:09 ` Ergus
2020-09-07 21:18 ` andrés ramírez
[not found] ` <87mu21wd3f.fsf@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20200907214104.kapyivsh5y62wcl5@Ergus>
[not found] ` <865z8p2qay.fsf@gmail.com>
2020-09-08 8:08 ` Ergus
2020-09-08 9:06 ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-08 9:26 ` Ergus
2020-09-08 16:14 ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-08 16:25 ` Ergus
2020-09-09 2:44 ` andrés ramírez
2020-09-07 20:05 ` A new user perspective about "Changes for emacs 28" Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-07 20:34 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-07 20:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-07 21:11 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-07 21:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-07 21:39 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-07 21:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 2:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-08 11:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 6:18 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-08 11:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 14:54 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-08 15:14 ` Amin Bandali
2020-09-08 15:53 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-08 16:18 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-08 16:28 ` Ergus
2020-09-08 15:27 ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-09-08 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 16:13 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-08 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 18:00 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-09 3:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09 19:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-09 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-09 21:43 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 15:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-08 21:31 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-09-10 7:23 ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-10 14:52 ` Howard Melman
2020-09-10 15:01 ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-10 16:43 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-09-09 5:03 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-09 8:35 ` Ergus
2020-09-09 8:41 ` tomas
2020-09-09 10:00 ` Ergus
2020-09-09 10:36 ` tomas
2020-09-09 13:49 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-09 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-09 15:54 ` tomas
2020-09-10 2:38 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-10 12:10 ` Robert Pluim
2020-09-11 4:16 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09 18:39 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-10 12:28 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2020-09-09 13:17 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-10 2:40 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-11 10:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-11 11:29 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-11 11:40 ` Ergus
2020-09-11 14:53 ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-11 15:03 ` Ergus
2020-09-11 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-11 20:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-12 13:02 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-12 13:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-13 22:13 ` chad
2020-09-13 22:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-15 4:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-15 6:54 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-11 12:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-11 15:08 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-11 20:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-11 13:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-11 14:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-11 14:59 ` Jack Kamm
2020-09-12 12:55 ` Arthur Miller
2020-09-11 13:15 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-09-11 14:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-08 16:37 ` Custom Et Al: Build-Up The Underlying Platform was " T.V Raman
2020-09-08 20:40 ` Daniel Martín
2020-09-09 3:51 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-09 8:48 ` Tim Cross
2020-09-09 15:53 ` Drew Adams
2020-09-09 16:36 ` Ergus
2020-09-09 16:41 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-09 17:05 ` Ergus
2020-09-09 14:32 ` T.V Raman
2020-09-09 18:44 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-11 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-07 18:16 ` Ergus
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