From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com,
db48x@db48x.net, stefankangas@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: character sets as they relate to “Raw” string literals for elisp
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 20:01:15 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YWCji/mhPQignepZ@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ily7xsjw.fsf@gnu.org>
Hello, Eli.
On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 21:47:15 +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 20:42:44 +0300
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net, db48x@db48x.net,
> > stefankangas@gmail.com, yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> > > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 17:17:36 +0000
> > > Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>, rms@gnu.org,
> > > yuri.v.khan@gmail.com, juri@linkov.net, db48x@db48x.net,
> > > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > > From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> > > I would suggest something slightly different which will solve the entire
> > > problem rather than just part of it. Have the minor mode translate the
> > > buffer text (temporarily) into ASCII rather than just displaying it thus.
> > > That way the user can search for `foo' or ... simply by using C-s.
> > Modifying the text of an Info manual is a bad idea for the reasons I
> > explained in an earlier message.
> And, of course, if you must have only ASCII characters in the Info
> files themselves, you can always regenerate them from the sources,
> without using the --enable-encoding switch. It's so simple that it's
> hardly worth another round of futile "discussions" that never go
> anywhere.
That's not what I want. I want UTF-8 characters, so that people's names,
etc., can be displayed correctly. I simply don't want the PUNCTUATION in
texi files to get translated to Unicode characters not on my keyboard,
and which can't be cleanly displayed on my Linux console. makeinfo and
friends don't have options for this.
I realise I'm not going to get this unless I write it myself, whether in
Texinfo or Emacs.
I'm also not asking you to carry on this discussion, which clearly isn't
going to get anywhere. But please take note of what it is I want and why
- that is, precisely, punctuation characters that I can type, display,
and search for with C-s.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-08 20:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-08 1:49 "Raw" string literals for elisp Anna Glasgall
2021-09-08 7:10 ` Po Lu
2021-09-08 14:19 ` Anna Glasgall
2021-09-08 7:12 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-08 14:20 ` Anna Glasgall
2021-09-08 11:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-08 14:27 ` Anna Glasgall
2021-09-08 11:34 ` Adam Porter
2021-09-08 13:59 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-09-08 14:12 ` Adam Porter
2021-09-09 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2021-09-08 13:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-08 14:31 ` Anna Glasgall
2021-09-08 15:27 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-09-08 15:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-08 16:45 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-09-08 16:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-08 18:24 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-09-08 19:00 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-08 19:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-08 19:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-09-08 21:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-08 21:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2021-09-09 6:52 ` tomas
2021-09-08 15:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-08 16:05 ` tomas
2021-09-08 16:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-08 20:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-08 20:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-09 7:04 ` tomas
2021-09-09 10:30 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-09-09 11:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-09 13:33 ` Mattias Engdegård
2021-09-09 14:32 ` tomas
2021-09-14 10:43 ` Augusto Stoffel
2021-09-14 11:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-09-14 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-14 13:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-09-14 14:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-09-14 14:39 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-09-14 15:33 ` Amin Bandali
2021-09-14 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-14 17:49 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2021-09-08 20:40 ` Anna Glasgall
2021-09-08 21:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-02 21:03 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-04 0:13 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-04 0:36 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-04 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 15:36 ` character sets as they relate to “Raw” " Daniel Brooks
2021-10-04 16:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-04 20:49 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-04 21:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-04 22:19 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-05 11:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-05 17:08 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-06 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-07 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-05 8:55 ` Yuri Khan
2021-10-05 16:25 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-05 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-05 18:40 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-06 20:54 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-07 6:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07 13:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-07 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07 14:48 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-07 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 0:37 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-08 6:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 15:09 ` Display of em dashes in our documentation Stefan Kangas
2021-10-08 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 17:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-10 8:00 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-08 17:27 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-08 18:26 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-08 17:17 ` character sets as they relate to “Raw” string literals for elisp Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-08 17:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-08 20:01 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2021-10-09 6:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-09 10:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-09 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-09 13:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-09 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-09 15:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-11 0:45 ` linux console limitations Daniel Brooks
2021-10-12 10:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-10-14 4:05 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-10 8:03 ` character sets as they relate to “Raw” string literals for elisp Juri Linkov
2021-10-05 18:23 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-05 19:13 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-05 19:20 ` Drew Adams
2021-10-05 17:13 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-05 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-05 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05 22:13 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-06 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 18:57 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-07 4:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07 22:27 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-08 10:37 ` Po Lu
2021-10-08 10:53 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-10-08 11:27 ` tomas
2021-10-05 22:25 ` character sets as they relate to “Raw†" Stefan Kangas
2021-10-06 6:21 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-07 22:20 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 12:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-06 12:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-06 13:10 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-10-06 11:53 ` character sets as they relate to “Raw” " Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 19:14 ` Yuri Khan
2021-10-05 21:20 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-06 3:48 ` character sets as they relate to “Raw†" Matthew Carter
2021-10-04 22:29 ` "Raw" " Richard Stallman
2021-10-05 5:39 ` Daniel Brooks
2021-10-05 5:43 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-10-05 8:24 ` Richard Stallman
2021-10-05 12:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
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