From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>,
Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 07:43:58 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB54885256C5A0F86687A012AEF34B9@SJ0PR10MB5488.namprd10.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAO48Bk_Cm8FaKL1TTstCDcckEqXjZK-aaSxMHjQ-LXuGVCY6Mw@mail.gmail.com>
> Let me try to put it another way: as I envisage the whole process
>
> 1.- On startup:
> a) Get the startup file from [ .emacs, .emacs.d/init.el, .config/emacs/init.el ] or whatever set of files we decide and load it
> b) if custom-file is not nil and wasn't already loaded, load custom-file. If is was already loaded, maybe tell the user (???)
>
> 2.- When saving the customisations
> if custom-file is not nil, save them there else save them in the startup file whatever it is
>
> AFAIK, the only new thing is to include 1b) in the emacs code, because 1a) and 2) are already in the code (it's how emacs behaves today, right?)
>
> So someone not defining custom-file would not see anything changing (long-standing behaviour respected)
No. That's not what I've suggested, at least.
Not defining `custom-file' _would_ change the
behavior. Setting `custom-file' to your init
file would keep the current default behavior of
Customize using your init file. That's in fact
what we have now, implicitly: `custom-file' =
init file. The aim is to make it different,
by default.
I suggested that, by default, Customize would
write to `custom-file'. Just like a bookmark
file, that variable would have a default value
(different from the default for your init file).
So doing nothing - not changing the default
value of `custom-file' - would mean that
Customize would write to that default file
location.
IOW, we would treat `custom-file' like we treat
bookmark files, desktop files, etc. We would
not, by default, have Customize write its config
code to your init file. (You would still be
_able_ to have Customize write to your init file,
if you like; that just wouldn't happen by default.)
___
I also suggested that we add a variable that you
can set (including conditionally) if you want to
prevent Emacs from loading `custom-file'.
The use of that variable is independent of the
question of where Customize saves info: it would
save to your `custom-file', whether that's a
separate file from your init file (the default
case) or not (you've set it to your init file).
The variable would exist just to give you a way
to prevent loading `custom-file', if you needed
to do that in some context.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-05 7:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-03 6:13 Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-03 14:47 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 6:13 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 6:45 ` tomas
2022-01-04 7:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:10 ` tomas
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:09 ` tomas
2022-01-04 17:30 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:03 ` tomas
2022-01-04 18:27 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:41 ` tomas
2022-01-05 9:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 7:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:11 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:30 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 10:46 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:59 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 13:02 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 11:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 12:23 ` LdBeth
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 15:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 15:48 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 15:57 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 15:54 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 16:49 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 17:14 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:32 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:45 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:55 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 18:24 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:35 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:57 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05 9:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-05 1:01 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 7:03 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 7:10 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 7:22 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 7:47 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 7:59 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 9:17 ` LdBeth
2022-01-05 9:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05 10:54 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 11:24 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 11:45 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 12:09 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 13:04 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 19:10 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:02 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 19:36 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 9:35 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 9:58 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 10:58 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-05 12:09 ` LdBeth
2022-01-05 12:57 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 13:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 15:58 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 0:37 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 7:21 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 7:23 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 7:33 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 7:39 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-06 9:40 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 9:45 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-06 12:28 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-06 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 20:11 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-06 22:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 22:33 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07 4:05 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 7:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07 17:18 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08 0:29 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-10 22:01 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-11 6:23 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 12:01 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:10 ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:25 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:42 ` tomas
[not found] ` <dbc302f1-a769-24d4-294d-e291b015229b@mnet-mail.de>
[not found] ` <Yd2W5BaccjjbJ6+q@tuxteam.de>
2022-01-11 15:23 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
[not found] ` <Yd2kAPRoYd37qCaN@tuxteam.de>
2022-01-11 16:05 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 16:11 ` tomas
2022-01-12 0:46 ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:35 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 15:05 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 20:57 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 13:27 ` Jean Louis
2022-01-07 0:52 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 4:46 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 5:58 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 7:04 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08 0:54 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 3:13 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 3:26 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 7:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 13:32 ` Add list of useful settings to setup wizard was: Re: Default custom file LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 14:50 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-08 15:30 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 15:05 ` John Yates
2022-01-08 8:03 ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08 9:38 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 10:39 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:14 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:35 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 12:44 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:59 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:16 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:24 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:33 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:44 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 14:32 ` tomas
2022-01-08 14:46 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 17:17 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-08 18:26 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
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2022-01-20 14:25 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-10 19:20 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-09 0:48 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:35 ` =?gb18030?B?u9i4tKO6IFtFeHRlcm5hbF0gOiBSZTogRGVmYXVsdCBjdXN0b20gZmlsZSB3YXM6IFJlOiBQcm9wb3NlIHRvIGFkZCBzZXR1cC13aXphcmQuZWwgdG8gRUxQQQ==?= =?gb18030?B?emVyb2xlZQ==?=
2022-01-08 14:28 ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08 14:48 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:42 ` tomas
2022-01-08 12:28 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-10 19:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-10 22:02 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-12 4:55 ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-12 8:58 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-12 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-12 5:09 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 0:49 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 4:42 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 6:38 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07 8:43 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-07 9:38 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07 17:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 0:48 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 6:18 ` tomas
2022-01-07 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 16:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 7:43 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2022-01-04 16:43 ` Drew Adams
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