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From: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, luangruo@yahoo.com, mathias@mnet-mail.de
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:23:12 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Mt8i7WT--B-2@tutanota.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yd2W5BaccjjbJ6+q@tuxteam.de>

Jan 11, 2022, 17:40 by tomas@tuxteam.de:

> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 03:23:50PM +0100, Mathias Megyei wrote:
>
>> On 1/11/22 1:42 PM, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
>>
>
> [...]
>
>> > Now this is not only unwarranted, but also unnecessary. The debate is
>> > already difficult as it is, so please, don't do that.
>> > 
>> > Cheers
>>
>> [I delibaretaly removed emacs-devel, I don't want to contribute to
>> non-technical discussion there. But I want to express my support for
>> xenodasein. No need to reply to this email.]
>>
>
> My mail wasn't about the position, but about the personal attack. This
> is unnecessary.
>
>> I have the same impression as xenodasein regarding the "helpfulness" of the
>> emails from Po Lu.
>>
>> Xenodasein, I hope and wish that you manage to overcome the destructive
>> effect of Po Lu's emails and remain active on emacs-devel. Maybe you could
>> just stop answering his emails and ask for the opinion of other developers
>> like Eli, Stefan M., Lars ...
>>
>
> This is just destructive behaviour. I don't know why you are doing this.
>
> Bye
> -- 
> tomás
>

It is not a refined response sure, but unnecessary and unwarranted?
I don't know.  I could just ignore but how is it better?  Ignoring
is simple enough, but it helps no one and there is no self-growth.
I see zero effort from the other party to correct these
misunderstandings, that is why my tone gets worse.  If this is too
disrupting and things won't change, I hereby stop responding to Po Lu
unless it is about something undeniable concrete a as patch, and I want
them to do the same.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-11 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-03  6:13 Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-03 14:47 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04  6:13   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04  6:45     ` tomas
2022-01-04  7:29       ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:10         ` tomas
2022-01-04 16:44           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:09             ` tomas
2022-01-04 17:30               ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:03                 ` tomas
2022-01-04 18:27                   ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:41                     ` tomas
2022-01-05  9:14                   ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 16:44       ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04  7:14     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:11       ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:30         ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 10:46           ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:59             ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 13:02               ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 11:11         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 12:23           ` LdBeth
2022-01-04 16:44         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 13:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 15:17         ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 15:48           ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 15:57             ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 15:54           ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 16:44         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 16:49           ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 17:14             ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:32               ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:45                 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:55                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 18:24                   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:35               ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:47                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:57                   ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05  9:14                     ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-05  1:01             ` Po Lu
2022-01-05  7:03               ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05  7:10                 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05  7:22                 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05  7:47                   ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05  7:59                     ` Po Lu
2022-01-05  9:17                       ` LdBeth
2022-01-05  9:26                         ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05 10:54                           ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 11:24                             ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 11:45                             ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 12:09                               ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 13:04                               ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 19:10                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:02                               ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:13                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 19:36                                   ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05  9:35                         ` Po Lu
2022-01-05  9:58                           ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 10:58                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-05 12:09                           ` LdBeth
2022-01-05 12:57                             ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 13:06                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 15:58                           ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06  0:37                             ` Po Lu
2022-01-06  7:21                               ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06  7:23                                 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06  7:33                                   ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06  7:39                                     ` Po Lu
2022-01-06  8:58                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-06  9:40                                     ` Po Lu
2022-01-06  9:45                                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-06 12:28                                         ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-06 17:20                                           ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19                                     ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 20:11                                       ` Tim Cross
2022-01-06 22:09                                         ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 22:33                                           ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07  4:05                                             ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07  7:13                                               ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07 17:18                                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08  0:29                                                   ` Tim Cross
2022-01-10 22:01                                                     ` Drew Adams
2022-01-11  6:23                                                       ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 12:01                                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:10                                                           ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:25                                                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:42                                                               ` tomas
     [not found]                                                                 ` <dbc302f1-a769-24d4-294d-e291b015229b@mnet-mail.de>
     [not found]                                                                   ` <Yd2W5BaccjjbJ6+q@tuxteam.de>
2022-01-11 15:23                                                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
     [not found]                                                                       ` <Yd2kAPRoYd37qCaN@tuxteam.de>
2022-01-11 16:05                                                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 16:11                                                                           ` tomas
2022-01-12  0:46                                                               ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:35                                                           ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 15:05                                                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 20:57                                                               ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 13:27                                                           ` Jean Louis
2022-01-07  0:52                                           ` Po Lu
2022-01-07  4:09                                             ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07  4:46                                               ` Po Lu
2022-01-07  5:58                                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07  7:04                                                   ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 18:06                                                     ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08  0:54                                                       ` Po Lu
2022-01-08  3:13                                                         ` LdBeth
2022-01-08  3:26                                                           ` Po Lu
2022-01-08  7:19                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 13:32                                                             ` Add list of useful settings to setup wizard was: Re: Default custom file LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:12                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 14:50                                                                 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:39                                                               ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-08 15:30                                                                 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 15:05                                                               ` John Yates
2022-01-08  8:03                                                         ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08  9:38                                                           ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 10:39                                                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:14                                                               ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:35                                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 12:44                                                                   ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:59                                                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:16                                                                       ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:24                                                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:33                                                                           ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:44                                                                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 14:32                                                                               ` tomas
2022-01-08 14:46                                                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 17:17                                                                                   ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-08 18:26                                                                                     ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <MtgbBbx--B-2@tutanota.de>
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <MtqtDSN--3-2@tutanota.de>
2022-01-20 14:25                                                                                           ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-10 19:20                                                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-09  0:48                                                                               ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:35                                                                           ` =?gb18030?B?u9i4tKO6IFtFeHRlcm5hbF0gOiBSZTogRGVmYXVsdCBjdXN0b20gZmlsZSB3YXM6IFJlOiBQcm9wb3NlIHRvIGFkZCBzZXR1cC13aXphcmQuZWwgdG8gRUxQQQ==?= =?gb18030?B?emVyb2xlZQ==?=
2022-01-08 14:28                                                                       ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08 14:48                                                                         ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:42                                                               ` tomas
2022-01-08 12:28                                                                 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-10 19:17                                                           ` Drew Adams
2022-01-10 22:02                                                         ` Drew Adams
2022-01-12  4:55                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-12  8:58                                                             ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-12 13:18                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-12  5:09                                                           ` Po Lu
2022-01-07  0:49                                       ` Po Lu
2022-01-07  4:09                                         ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07  4:42                                           ` Po Lu
2022-01-07  6:38                                             ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07  8:43                                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-07  9:38                                                 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07 17:17                                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 17:12                                               ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19                                   ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07  0:48                                     ` Po Lu
2022-01-07  4:09                                       ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07  6:18                                         ` tomas
2022-01-07 18:06                                           ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 16:17                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05  7:43                 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 16:43     ` Drew Adams

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