From: LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>,
Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>,
"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, LdBeth <andpuke@foxmail.com>,
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2022 20:09:16 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <tencent_B1E89E008C781D002BB63F0BB7E5EE1DC707@qq.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735m28qzr.fsf@yahoo.com>
>>>>> In <8735m28qzr.fsf@yahoo.com>
>>>>> Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
ldb> I think saving custom set variables to init file somehow prevents
ldb> using byte compiled init.el file effectively (unless the user
ldb> hooks auto compile whenever it is changed by emacs). From that
ldb> perspective, I'm happy to see that this behavior is to be
ldb> changed.
PL> Why byte-compile your init file? It usually makes no measurable
PL> difference whatsoever, except it breaks things like
PL> custom-set-variables and inhibit-startup-echo-area-message.
PL> Thanks.
In case heavy macros like `use-package' are used in the init file, and
by taking advantages of `eval-when-compile' a lot, byte-compiled init
file does make some difference.
I can't tell if writing custom-set-variables to init file by default
has made many people prefer a structured hierarchy instead of a single
init.el file. Having a single well debugged .emacs.elc been copied
across instances could be a choice.
Occasionally I see people using one Org-mode file to generate their
Emacs config files#1#, that's another kind of over engineering.
> inhibit-startup-echo-area-message
That's a hack :-) And the docstring already tells us a hackish
workaround:
> If your init file is byte-compiled, use the following form
> instead:
> (eval '(setq inhibit-startup-echo-area-message "YOUR-USER-NAME"))
And I would not get very disappointed by either way, because I've
already went with a structured config directory.
--
LDB
#1#=(I trend to not make judgment on the usefulness of Literate
Programming, but it is certainly meaningless to use it on something
that nobody else would read)
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2022-01-03 6:13 Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-03 14:47 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 6:13 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 6:45 ` tomas
2022-01-04 7:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:10 ` tomas
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:09 ` tomas
2022-01-04 17:30 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:03 ` tomas
2022-01-04 18:27 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 18:41 ` tomas
2022-01-05 9:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 16:44 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 7:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 10:11 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:30 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 10:46 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 10:59 ` Po Lu
2022-01-04 13:02 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 11:11 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 12:23 ` LdBeth
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 15:17 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-04 15:48 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 15:57 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 15:54 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 16:44 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-04 16:49 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 17:14 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:32 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:45 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-04 17:55 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-04 18:24 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:35 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-04 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-04 17:57 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05 9:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-05 1:01 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 7:03 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 7:10 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 7:22 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 7:47 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 7:59 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 9:17 ` LdBeth
2022-01-05 9:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-05 10:54 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 11:24 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 11:45 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 12:09 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-05 13:04 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 19:10 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:02 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 19:36 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 9:35 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 9:58 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-05 10:58 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-05 12:09 ` LdBeth [this message]
2022-01-05 12:57 ` Po Lu
2022-01-05 13:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-05 15:58 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 0:37 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 7:21 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 7:23 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 7:33 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-06 7:39 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 8:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-06 9:40 ` Po Lu
2022-01-06 9:45 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-06 12:28 ` Colin Baxter 😺
2022-01-06 17:20 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 20:11 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-06 22:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 22:33 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07 4:05 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 7:13 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-07 17:18 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08 0:29 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-10 22:01 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-11 6:23 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 12:01 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:10 ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:25 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 12:42 ` tomas
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2022-01-11 15:23 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
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2022-01-11 16:05 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 16:11 ` tomas
2022-01-12 0:46 ` Po Lu
2022-01-11 12:35 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 15:05 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-11 20:57 ` Tim Cross
2022-01-11 13:27 ` Jean Louis
2022-01-07 0:52 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 4:46 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 5:58 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 7:04 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-08 0:54 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 3:13 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 3:26 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 7:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 13:32 ` Add list of useful settings to setup wizard was: Re: Default custom file LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-08 14:50 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 14:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-01-08 15:30 ` LdBeth
2022-01-08 15:05 ` John Yates
2022-01-08 8:03 ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08 9:38 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 10:39 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:14 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:35 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 12:44 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 12:59 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:16 ` Po Lu
2022-01-08 13:24 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 13:33 ` Po Lu
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2022-01-08 14:32 ` tomas
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2022-01-20 14:25 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-10 19:20 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-01-09 0:48 ` Po Lu
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2022-01-08 14:28 ` [External] : Re: Default custom file was: Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA tomas
2022-01-08 14:48 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-08 11:42 ` tomas
2022-01-08 12:28 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-10 19:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-10 22:02 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-12 4:55 ` Richard Stallman
2022-01-12 8:58 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-01-12 13:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-12 5:09 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 0:49 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 4:42 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 6:38 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07 8:43 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-07 9:38 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2022-01-07 17:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 0:48 ` Po Lu
2022-01-07 4:09 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-07 6:18 ` tomas
2022-01-07 18:06 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-06 16:17 ` Drew Adams
2022-01-05 7:43 ` Drew Adams
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