From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Instead of pcase
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:43:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1r5GjU-00082f-Jn@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d53bc151-ab97-6b3a-2a74-7032be042383@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:58:39 +0200)
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> No one is arguing about whether people are allowed to post opinions.
Some are doing something somewhat like that.
I have criticized CL, and pcase, for bloating the complexity of Emacs
Lisp as one needs to know it to work on the current code base. Others
disagree and have defended those features.
I think that the disagreement on these questions is based on
differing ideas about about what makes a feature good or bad.
However, there are people who have switched to an ad-hominem campaign.
They are not attacking my views about CL and pcase; rather, they are
attacking me personally.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-11-21 2:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 342+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-11-16 3:04 Instead of pcase Richard Stallman
2023-11-16 7:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-16 17:18 ` T.V Raman
2023-11-16 17:44 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 18:16 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-17 8:54 ` Complex SPEC for variables/customization like font-lock-keywords/org-capture-templates/etc (was: Instead of pcase) Ihor Radchenko
2023-11-25 4:03 ` Complex SPEC for variables/customization like font-lock-keywords/org-capture-templates/etc Stefan Monnier
2023-11-16 19:19 ` Instead of pcase Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17 8:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-16 18:39 ` T.V Raman
2023-11-16 18:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-11-16 18:51 ` T.V Raman
2023-11-18 3:04 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-19 12:23 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 16:02 ` Barry Fishman
2023-11-19 17:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 19:31 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2023-11-25 4:23 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-27 3:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-19 21:15 ` Barry Fishman
2023-11-20 1:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-20 15:32 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-23 2:57 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-24 17:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-27 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-27 12:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-29 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-29 12:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-01 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-28 2:44 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-28 12:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-30 3:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-01 0:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-01 5:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-10 8:34 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-12-10 9:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-10 9:53 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-12-10 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-10 11:05 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2023-12-01 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 8:03 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-02 3:21 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-24 18:14 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-24 18:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-27 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-28 2:46 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-28 6:35 ` Nikita Domnitskii
2023-11-30 3:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-02 21:37 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-12-10 15:14 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-10 16:27 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-12-10 20:28 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-10 21:13 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-12-12 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-12 6:46 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-12-12 15:18 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-14 3:24 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-14 16:52 ` Drew Adams
2023-12-16 4:24 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 5:04 ` Drew Adams
2023-12-16 18:30 ` Bob Rogers
2023-12-18 4:13 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-12 19:24 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-12-12 21:36 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-12-12 22:25 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-13 1:32 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-14 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 4:23 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-18 4:09 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-18 10:08 ` cond* João Távora
2023-12-21 4:20 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-21 9:50 ` cond* João Távora
2023-12-21 16:01 ` [External] : cond* Drew Adams
2023-12-21 16:20 ` João Távora
2023-12-24 3:56 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-24 3:57 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-21 14:10 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-24 3:57 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-25 14:14 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-19 3:49 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-19 12:13 ` cond* João Távora
2023-12-22 3:14 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-22 7:27 ` cond* Philip Kaludercic
2023-12-25 3:41 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-25 12:32 ` cond* Philip Kaludercic
2023-12-27 4:54 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-27 14:34 ` cond* Philip Kaludercic
2023-12-29 3:52 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-01 14:49 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-03 4:13 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 15:57 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-05 4:23 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-06 14:33 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-06 22:25 ` [External] : cond* Drew Adams
2024-01-08 3:45 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 15:20 ` Drew Adams
2024-01-09 2:53 ` map seq and radix-tree-leaf, in pcase Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 3:47 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-10 13:03 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-13 3:50 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-13 6:32 ` cond* Adam Porter
2024-01-16 3:31 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-13 19:47 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-15 3:13 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 3:47 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 15:13 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-27 3:37 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-02-01 16:26 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-02-03 3:36 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-02-03 16:52 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-03 4:13 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 15:48 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-06 4:31 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-06 13:09 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-08 3:47 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 15:26 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-27 3:37 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 4:13 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 15:50 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-06 4:31 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-06 13:13 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-08 3:47 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 15:35 ` cond* Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-19 15:53 ` [External] : cond* Drew Adams
2023-12-21 4:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-21 4:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-18 4:09 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-18 5:41 ` cond* Adam Porter
2023-12-21 4:20 ` cond* Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 4:23 ` Instead of pcase Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 4:23 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-16 6:57 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-20 3:28 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-20 10:52 ` Adam Porter
2023-12-23 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-23 2:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-25 14:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-27 4:54 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-28 13:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-30 3:20 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-01 14:33 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-03 4:13 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 4:13 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-03 16:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-05 4:23 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-06 13:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-08 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2024-01-08 15:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-27 3:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-13 4:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-11 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-19 13:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-21 2:42 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-21 5:14 ` Jim Porter
2023-11-21 5:34 ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-21 11:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-21 15:38 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-23 3:00 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-24 3:34 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-24 4:30 ` Jim Porter
2023-11-24 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-25 3:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-24 17:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-24 17:29 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-11-28 2:44 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-30 19:14 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-11-30 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-30 20:30 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-01 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 15:47 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-01 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 20:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-12-02 13:24 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-02 13:51 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-04 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-03 3:28 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-30 20:47 ` João Távora
2023-12-01 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 7:07 ` Yuri Khan
2023-12-01 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 9:04 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-04 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-04 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-04 12:35 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-12-04 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-04 17:46 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-07 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-07 17:42 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-09 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-04 18:17 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-12-04 12:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-08 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-01 10:13 ` João Távora
2023-12-01 8:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-01 10:02 ` João Távora
2023-12-01 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 12:48 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-01 14:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 18:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-12-01 18:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-01 18:45 ` João Távora
2024-01-09 5:36 ` Stefan Kangas
2023-12-01 13:28 ` João Távora
2023-12-01 16:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-09 5:33 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-09 10:43 ` João Távora
2023-12-01 16:04 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-01 16:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-02 3:20 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-02 8:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-12-02 9:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-12-02 10:14 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-02 17:02 ` Barry Fishman
2023-12-02 20:25 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-03 4:30 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-12-05 2:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-05 3:36 ` chad
2023-12-08 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-02 14:33 ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2023-12-04 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-02 18:01 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-12-04 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-12-04 12:27 ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-12-03 3:27 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-25 4:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-11-27 3:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-30 18:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 18:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-16 23:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-17 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-26 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-16 15:06 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-16 17:31 ` T.V Raman
2023-11-16 18:26 ` Jim Porter
2023-11-16 18:40 ` T.V Raman
2023-11-16 19:13 ` Jim Porter
2023-11-20 3:06 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-20 14:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-23 2:57 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-16 15:20 ` Spencer Baugh
2023-11-16 20:16 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-16 21:37 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-11-25 4:34 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-25 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-18 3:03 ` combining cond and let, to replace pcase Richard Stallman
2023-11-19 11:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 11:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 12:16 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-19 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 13:32 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-19 14:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 15:27 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-19 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 16:03 ` Joost Kremers
2023-11-19 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 18:29 ` Joost Kremers
2023-11-19 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 12:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 13:52 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 15:35 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-20 16:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-21 8:33 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-21 8:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 13:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 14:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 14:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 12:04 ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-11-19 18:10 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-25 4:45 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-28 15:31 ` João Távora
2023-11-28 15:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-11-19 21:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-21 16:14 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 16:08 ` Axel Forsman
2023-11-21 15:53 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-23 2:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-23 7:02 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-26 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-27 17:07 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-27 17:59 ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-28 14:25 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2023-11-23 8:58 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-26 3:14 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-24 3:08 ` Daniel Semyonov
2023-11-24 3:26 ` Daniel Semyonov
2023-11-25 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-25 5:11 ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-27 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-27 18:13 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-11-27 18:49 ` Yuri Khan
2023-11-27 23:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-11-29 3:41 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-29 3:40 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-27 3:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-11-16 18:11 ` Instead of pcase Emanuel Berg
2023-11-16 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-16 22:16 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-17 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-17 8:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-17 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-18 6:26 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-18 7:21 ` Po Lu
2023-11-18 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-16 18:22 ` Jim Porter
2023-11-16 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-17 5:36 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 11:48 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 14:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 14:41 ` Po Lu
2023-11-19 14:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 14:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 14:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 18:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-19 18:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-19 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-21 2:43 ` Richard Stallman [this message]
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2023-11-19 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20 14:52 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-19 14:29 ` Po Lu
2023-11-20 15:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-11-20 15:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-20 23:43 ` Po Lu
2023-11-21 1:09 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-21 1:49 ` Po Lu
2023-11-21 1:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-21 4:04 ` Po Lu
2023-11-21 11:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-21 11:49 ` Po Lu
2023-11-20 23:45 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-11-20 23:54 ` Emanuel Berg
2023-11-21 2:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-11-22 2:59 ` Richard Stallman
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