From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Instead of pcase Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:43:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87fs15kkk1.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jhi3qx3.fsf@web.de> <83y1etkiuq.fsf@gnu.org> <6f376b44-0d57-0398-b494-a4cfdfa6d38c@gutov.dev> <83o7fpkd7g.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10650"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 21 03:43:47 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r5Gjq-0002XD-RV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:43:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5GjX-0006w0-9b; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:43:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5GjV-0006ug-NT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:43:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5GjV-0006sN-Ez; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:43:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=AgxugjcFLLS+liru7181V+0H6AUw2GeGFK8HQkPZ+Nc=; b=fqmp3pOmBjDT t8JSkMmtcHM407pVC1M9bM5oK0UkSPI3A2kJglDcLhBIQ8OFlM6mQSHURzuz7ww+dHOsK32FXbSVv OFSXc97IZ4/imUlebShXn9Fp8NxluZH9wXOz2Tz8cXtPT865f1cvCLq5RCi3HBvcf8jDViDN5WXXK A7+nmhIBG6XdL2oTRiQ+RjPuwCliR57ye+BTvf2mtENTwftIh9DTsdzz6ZA3LQ67sLY+RCnpTV84T rTq2tb9pfuwjOJ6ipQahK7GfcQszVqkuI7DC8yZi2HmestLLoW2I0Rqr3xQ1JH0KN0kla2H3xw4hX RNkHfacvb75DyCbcPPfx2A==; Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r5GjU-00082f-Jn; Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:43:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:58:39 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313083 Archived-At: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > No one is arguing about whether people are allowed to post opinions. Some are doing something somewhat like that. I have criticized CL, and pcase, for bloating the complexity of Emacs Lisp as one needs to know it to work on the current code base. Others disagree and have defended those features. I think that the disagreement on these questions is based on differing ideas about about what makes a feature good or bad. However, there are people who have switched to an ad-hominem campaign. They are not attacking my views about CL and pcase; rather, they are attacking me personally. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)