From: "Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@gnu.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: bzg@gnu.org, yantar92@posteo.net, jemarch@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2023 04:30:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1qcM1w-0004UY-MT@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1qcFmq-0008Io-CX@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 01 Sep 2023 21:50:56 -0400)
> The .org falls in the category of lightweight markup formats and I
> believe it should stick close to this definition.
If people keep this unchanged, Org mode will remain useful for the
tasks it can do today. But it won't be able to do the job for which
we now use Texinfo.
There are many different Texinfo markup constructs, so to do the job
of Texinfo, Org mode would need to be able to distinguish them all.
So the basic question is: to extend Org mode to do that job, or not?
It would make more sense to extend Texinfo to allow for org-mode like
markup (or lighter markup), than try to stuff Texinfo into org-mode.
Texinfo is despite its issues, very nice and easy to write.
Handling the version chasm between existing Texinfo and "new" Texinfo
can easily be solved by having a small @texinfo-version thing at the
top.
But replacing Texinfo outright with some org-mode variant seems like yak
shaving. The big issue with Texinfo is that it is hard to make your own
complicated constructs (like @defn ..), and the lack of macro support of
any kind.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-02 8:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-25 2:52 Org mode and Emacs Payas Relekar
2022-09-25 6:35 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 7:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 7:47 ` Bastien
2022-09-25 8:01 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-25 8:22 ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-25 8:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-25 19:47 ` Tim Cross
2022-09-26 6:12 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 6:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 6:57 ` Bastien
2023-08-18 17:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 18:49 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-18 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-18 19:31 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 5:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 9:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 9:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:19 ` Po Lu
2023-08-19 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:48 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-19 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-19 10:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-21 1:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-21 7:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-23 2:12 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23 9:44 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 11:01 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 11:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 12:49 ` Po Lu
2023-08-23 17:18 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:08 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-23 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 18:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-25 1:11 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-23 16:53 ` Colin Baxter
2023-08-23 17:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2023-08-24 11:52 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-24 17:51 ` T.V Raman
2023-08-24 17:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-24 18:35 ` T.V Raman
2023-08-25 1:16 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 11:45 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 1:14 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-25 9:04 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-25 18:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 10:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 8:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-26 5:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26 16:49 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-08-26 16:56 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-26 20:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-08-26 20:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-30 8:11 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-27 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 8:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-29 8:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-01 1:18 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-01 6:46 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-04 22:05 ` Juergen Fenn
2023-09-05 11:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-06 11:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:43 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:49 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 12:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:04 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 13:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 13:33 ` Po Lu
2023-09-06 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 16:12 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 11:11 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 0:37 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 9:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 0:22 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09 0:38 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30 8:11 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-09-02 1:50 ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-02 8:19 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-02 8:30 ` Alfred M. Szmidt [this message]
2023-08-27 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-27 8:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 1:32 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-28 10:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-28 11:15 ` Yuri Khan
2023-08-28 11:21 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-08-31 2:09 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-31 8:53 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-04 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2023-08-30 8:14 ` Bastien Guerry
2023-08-30 8:32 ` Po Lu
2023-08-27 1:33 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26 8:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 8:32 ` Jean Louis
2022-09-26 9:54 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 11:04 ` Robert Pluim
2022-09-27 16:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-30 3:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 12:10 ` Richard Stallman
2022-09-26 3:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 5:37 ` Po Lu
2022-09-26 5:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-09-26 6:20 ` Bastien Guerry
2022-09-26 13:58 ` T.V Raman
2022-09-26 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-09-26 6:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-09-26 6:18 ` Bastien
2022-09-26 6:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2022-06-13 1:47 Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Christopher Dimech
2022-06-13 2:47 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-13 5:04 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-13 5:22 ` Org mode and Emacs Werner LEMBERG
2022-06-13 5:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-04 17:27 Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-05 8:38 ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-05 8:51 ` Po Lu
2022-06-05 10:26 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-05 11:15 ` Michael Albinus
2022-06-06 0:19 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-06 11:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-06 13:57 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-06 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 6:14 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-07 16:02 ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-06-07 18:14 ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 18:26 ` Org mode and Emacs Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-07 18:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-07 19:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-07 20:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-07 22:10 ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Tim Cross
2022-06-08 6:06 ` Org mode and Emacs Visuwesh
2022-06-08 6:58 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-09 22:31 ` Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package) Richard Stallman
2022-06-09 23:10 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-10 5:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-10 6:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-10 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-11 4:49 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-11 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 9:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 9:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 10:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 10:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 10:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-12 15:31 ` Org mode and Emacs Colin Baxter
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2022-06-15 6:46 ` Org mode and Emacs David Engster
2022-06-15 7:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15 13:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2022-06-16 9:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-15 13:34 ` David Engster
2022-06-16 6:50 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2022-06-16 7:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
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2022-06-16 11:12 ` Mattias Engdegård
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2022-06-16 16:59 ` Org mode and Emacs Stefan Monnier
2022-06-16 3:19 ` Pankaj Jangid
2022-06-16 4:03 ` Visuwesh
2022-09-25 2:14 ` Bastien
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2022-06-12 2:40 ` Org mode and Emacs T.V Raman
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2022-06-12 2:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 2:36 ` David Masterson
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2022-06-12 3:39 ` David Masterson
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2022-06-12 5:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 5:27 ` Tim Cross
2022-06-12 5:53 ` David Masterson
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2022-06-12 18:29 ` David Masterson
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2022-06-12 3:54 ` chad
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2022-06-12 7:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-12 22:38 ` Richard Stallman
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