From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs (was: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 13:15:22 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83o7yyur0l.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r13up587.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:04:56 +0800)
> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
> Cc: theophilusx@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
> acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2022 18:04:56 +0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> So, now we have our manual written in Org mode and we never had reasons
> >> to come back to texi.
> >
> > And I get to wait for 2 minutes for the build to finish each time
> > org.org is touched. Right.
>
> This is not very polite. The change did not aim to make your life
> harder.
It is an expression of frustration I feel each time the build needs to
rebuild the Org manual. I wrote it to contrast that frustration with
what I perceived as satisfaction with this solution expressed in your
description of the history of this.
I really wonder how come no one on the Org list paid any attention to
the 10-fold to 40-fold slowdown in the time it takes to build the
manual, as result of that change. But that's water under the bridge.
> You are free to open discussion in Org ML about turning back to texi
> format, but it will, for example, make things harder for me and other
> people who are not familiar with texinfo format. I am not sure if build
> time justifies extra maintenance burden.
I don't see any chance I will convince Org developers to go back to
Texinfo at this point.
> I just pushed several improvements to ox.el. They reduce manual
> generation time 2x on my system (using main branch). Feel free to try it
> on your side. AFAIU, the effect should be more noticeable on slower
> systems.
Thanks, I hope to see this soon in the Emacs repository.
> It may also help if you try to profile org-make-manuals from
> mk/org-fixup.el and share the results.
If profiling can help, wouldn't it be simpler to invoke the same
commands from an interactive Emacs session, then show the profile?
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