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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: handa@etl.go.jp, raeburn@raeburn.org,
	monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 16:02:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E17nPJX-0007TG-00@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rzqznuwrnsf.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (message from Dave Love on 06 Sep 2002 00:59:12 +0100)

    They mostly haven't been touched, and don't need to be.  You can't
    generally change them to Unicode (as opposed to utf-8-emacs) because
    they may contain non-Unicode characters.

What non-Unicode characters do you mean?  In the Unicode version, the
only non-Unicode characters Emacs supports will be Han characters.
Why would we want to have non-Han non-Unicode characters in these files
when Emacs does not support them?

If you think there is a reason to do so, would you please explain what
it is, why, and which characters we would use?  Please give one
concrete example to nail things down.

    > Is this an inevitable consequence of the unification done by
    > Unicode?

    No.  The fact that you can't prevent it for i/o of general iso-2022 is
    a missing feature, as handa said.

Handa, I have not seen where you said that.  Would you please address
this question?

      I thought it was a design feature you insisted on that the
    character space is much bigger than Unicode for that sort of reason.

I am not sure what this missing feature would be, and I don't know
what "that sort of reason" refers to.  The reason the character set is
bigger than Unicode is to avoid unifying Han characters.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-06 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-18 16:02 please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Dave Love
2002-07-18 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 16:53   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 17:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-20  0:35       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 22:07       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-21  5:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-08-09  7:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-10 17:16           ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 17:25             ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-08-13 22:47               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 17:53             ` Tak Ota
2002-08-12 18:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-13 22:46               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                 ` <20020813.175221.107709446.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
2002-08-15 19:54                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-15 20:47                     ` Tak Ota
2002-08-16 14:31                       ` FSF Copyright Assignment Clerk
2002-08-16 17:59                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-16 18:32                         ` Tak Ota
2002-08-12 19:58             ` Simon Josefsson
2002-08-13 22:46               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-14 11:52                 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-08-14 12:32                   ` Simon Josefsson
2002-08-14 23:14                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 17:12             ` Dave Love
2002-09-01  0:10               ` Alex Schroeder
2002-08-13 16:34     ` plan for code freeze Stefan Monnier
2002-08-14  5:15       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-14 14:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-17  4:19           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-17 20:08             ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]               ` <m2u1lsa3sx.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-08-18 19:18                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-19  5:17                   ` Miles Bader
2002-08-19 20:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-19 21:55                       ` Alex Schroeder
2002-08-21  0:11                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-26  8:37                   ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-08-23 15:03               ` William M. Perry
2002-08-25  5:26                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-28 15:47                   ` William M. Perry
2002-08-29 17:50                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 17:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 19:02                         ` Sam Steingold
2002-08-29 20:15                           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 20:25                             ` Sam Steingold
2002-08-29 20:36                               ` Alan Shutko
2002-08-29 20:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-04 14:40                         ` William M. Perry
2002-07-18 18:39 ` please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Ken Raeburn
2002-07-23 23:24   ` Dave Love
2002-07-24 15:54     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-25  3:30     ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-09  7:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-10 17:16       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 20:08       ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-13  0:30         ` Kenichi Handa
2002-08-31 17:07           ` Dave Love
2002-09-03  6:15             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-04 14:20               ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05  5:48                 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-05 14:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-06  4:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06  4:29                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-07  3:17                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 22:17                           ` Dave Love
2002-09-19  4:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-25 22:49                               ` Dave Love
2002-09-19  4:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-20  3:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25 22:39                           ` Dave Love
2002-09-06  4:46                     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-05 22:41                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-06  4:01                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 23:30               ` Dave Love
2002-09-05 18:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 20:42                   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-05 23:59                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-06 20:02                     ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2002-09-07 23:48                       ` Dave Love
2002-09-09  0:22                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09  0:57                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-09 23:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-12 23:01                               ` Dave Love
2002-09-13 19:33                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25 22:49                                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-27 17:42                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 22:22                                       ` Dave Love
2002-10-06 16:14                                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04  6:08                                     ` Kenichi Handa

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