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From: Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk>
Cc: handa@etl.go.jp,  eliz@is.elta.co.il,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes
Date: 09 Sep 2002 23:17:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rzqptvmolj4.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E17nW5l-00083w-00@fencepost.gnu.org

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> This could be a useful feature.  These properties won't be necessary
> for correctness, and it would be no disaster if they got lost,

It would be unfortunate, as it is clobbering data.  Especially, it's
probably not visually obvious.

Text properties are currently fragile because they're often stripped
with calls of buffer-substring-no-properties and friends.  A lot of
that was done either before composition used text properties or
without considering it, and should be re-thought -- `-no-properties'
should typically be `-some-properties'.

I'm not sure how much trouble that can cause in practice when moving
text, but I think it needs attention.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-09 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-18 16:02 please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Dave Love
2002-07-18 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-19 16:53   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-19 17:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-07-20  0:35       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-20 22:07       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-21  5:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-08-09  7:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-10 17:16           ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 17:25             ` Luc Teirlinck
2002-08-13 22:47               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 17:53             ` Tak Ota
2002-08-12 18:44               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-13 22:46               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                 ` <20020813.175221.107709446.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
2002-08-15 19:54                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-15 20:47                     ` Tak Ota
2002-08-16 14:31                       ` FSF Copyright Assignment Clerk
2002-08-16 17:59                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-16 18:32                         ` Tak Ota
2002-08-12 19:58             ` Simon Josefsson
2002-08-13 22:46               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-14 11:52                 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-08-14 12:32                   ` Simon Josefsson
2002-08-14 23:14                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 17:12             ` Dave Love
2002-09-01  0:10               ` Alex Schroeder
2002-08-13 16:34     ` plan for code freeze Stefan Monnier
2002-08-14  5:15       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-14 14:39         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-17  4:19           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-17 20:08             ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]               ` <m2u1lsa3sx.fsf@primate.xs4all.nl>
2002-08-18 19:18                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-19  5:17                   ` Miles Bader
2002-08-19 20:46                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-19 21:55                       ` Alex Schroeder
2002-08-21  0:11                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-26  8:37                   ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-08-23 15:03               ` William M. Perry
2002-08-25  5:26                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-28 15:47                   ` William M. Perry
2002-08-29 17:50                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 17:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 19:02                         ` Sam Steingold
2002-08-29 20:15                           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 20:25                             ` Sam Steingold
2002-08-29 20:36                               ` Alan Shutko
2002-08-29 20:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-04 14:40                         ` William M. Perry
2002-07-18 18:39 ` please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Ken Raeburn
2002-07-23 23:24   ` Dave Love
2002-07-24 15:54     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-25  3:30     ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-09  7:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-10 17:16       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 20:08       ` Ken Raeburn
2002-08-13  0:30         ` Kenichi Handa
2002-08-31 17:07           ` Dave Love
2002-09-03  6:15             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-04 14:20               ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05  5:48                 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-05 14:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-06  4:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-06  4:29                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-07  3:17                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 22:17                           ` Dave Love [this message]
2002-09-19  4:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-25 22:49                               ` Dave Love
2002-09-19  4:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-20  3:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25 22:39                           ` Dave Love
2002-09-06  4:46                     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-05 22:41                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-06  4:01                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 23:30               ` Dave Love
2002-09-05 18:03                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-05 20:42                   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-09-05 23:59                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-06 20:02                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-07 23:48                       ` Dave Love
2002-09-09  0:22                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09  0:57                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-09 23:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-12 23:01                               ` Dave Love
2002-09-13 19:33                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25 22:49                                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-27 17:42                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 22:22                                       ` Dave Love
2002-10-06 16:14                                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04  6:08                                     ` Kenichi Handa

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