From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: C-x 8 shorthands for ≤ and ≥
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 11:58:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFyQvY2Ce6eniQH9k3MucUYqDQ+WOTKb2s=xEGgMS-Qimc0kyA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFyQvY2_heUab5H2RV54NTfk-iJj43q-++XaeYd=tMu1ipVF9Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Here's what I now have to put a clean ending to this thread (for anyone who
might end up here while looking for something):
(require 'iso-transl)
;; Add custom bindings to "C-x 8" map
(dolist (binding '((">" . nil) ; First unbind ">" from the map
(">=" . [?≥])
(">>" . [?≫])
(">\"" . [?»])
(">'" . [?›])
("<" . nil) ; First unbind "<" from the map
("<=" . [?≤])
("<<" . [?≪])
("<\"" . [?«])
("<'" . [?‹])))
(define-key iso-transl-ctl-x-8-map (kbd (car binding)) (cdr binding)))
--
Kaushal Modi
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Kaushal <kaushal.modi@gmail.com> wrote:
> In reply to Drew's email that seems to have started by mistake in a new
> thread
>
> > And I'm wondering why we need to provide such "shortcuts". It is
> > *trivial* for anyone to bind keys to insert any chars one uses often.
> > I don't see how we're doing anyone any favors by this.
> >
> > What's so special about any particular set of Unicode chars that we
> > should bother to offer a predefined set of bindings for them (even if
> > turning on that set is optional)? Now we're even down to looking to
> > bind ≫ or »? How silly is that? (Well, I'm sure those chars are
> > very useful for some people - but those who need 'em can bind 'em.)
> >
> > Where's the beef?
>
> As I mentioned in the first email, I can easily bind those to what I want.
>
> I was motivated to email about this because I found the binding "_<" for ≤
> a bit unnatural. In all the coding languages I used, ≤ was always
> represented as "<=" and so thought that that binding would make more sense.
>
> Then I realized that "<" was already taken for the « and so we could not
> have the "<=" binding.
>
> And then the thread evolved as you see.
>
> As Stefan mentioned, the "<" binding was added at the time when probably
> the other unicode characters were probably not popular.
>
> So this was just a little gesture to "upgrade" the out-of-box bindings for
> "C-x 8" since we are already setting a few default bindings for some
> unicode characters.
>
> I am fine with this discussion ending here and I will go back to using a
> little hydra with a bunch of unicode chars I use frequently.
>
>
> --
> Kaushal Modi
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> > I disagree. I use « and » from time to time, and I /never/ wanted to
>> > use ≪ or ≫.
>>
>> FWIW I'm in the same situation.
>>
>>
>> Stefan
>>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-12 15:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-11 13:22 C-x 8 shorthands for ≤ and ≥ Kaushal
2015-05-11 13:29 ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 14:57 ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 15:08 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-05-11 15:24 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-11 15:40 ` Yuri Khan
2015-05-11 15:46 ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 16:27 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-05-11 16:34 ` Rasmus
2015-05-11 16:54 ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 20:34 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-11 22:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 22:33 ` C-x 8 shorthands for = and = Drew Adams
2015-05-12 14:14 ` C-x 8 shorthands for ≤ and ≥ Kaushal
2015-05-12 15:58 ` Kaushal [this message]
2015-05-11 18:26 ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-05-11 19:41 ` Kaushal
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