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From: Kaushal <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
	Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Yuri Khan <yuri.v.khan@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: C-x 8 shorthands for ≤ and ≥
Date: Tue, 12 May 2015 10:14:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFyQvY2_heUab5H2RV54NTfk-iJj43q-++XaeYd=tMu1ipVF9Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwviobywyom.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

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In reply to Drew's email that seems to have started by mistake in a new
thread

> And I'm wondering why we need to provide such "shortcuts".  It is
> *trivial* for anyone to bind keys to insert any chars one uses often.
> I don't see how we're doing anyone any favors by this.
>
> What's so special about any particular set of Unicode chars that we
> should bother to offer a predefined set of bindings for them (even if
> turning on that set is optional)?  Now we're even down to looking to
> bind ≫ or »?  How silly is that?  (Well, I'm sure those chars are
> very useful for some people - but those who need 'em can bind 'em.)
>
> Where's the beef?

As I mentioned in the first email, I can easily bind those to what I want.

I was motivated to email about this because I found the binding "_<" for ≤
a bit unnatural. In all the coding languages I used, ≤ was always
represented as "<=" and so thought that that binding would make more sense.

Then I realized that "<" was already taken for the « and so we could not
have the "<=" binding.

And then the thread evolved as you see.

As Stefan mentioned, the "<" binding was added at the time when probably
the other unicode characters were probably not popular.

So this was just a little gesture to "upgrade" the out-of-box bindings for
"C-x 8" since we are already setting a few default bindings for some
unicode characters.

I am fine with this discussion ending here and I will go back to using a
little hydra with a bunch of unicode chars I use frequently.


--
Kaushal Modi

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
wrote:

> > I disagree.  I use « and » from time to time, and I /never/ wanted to
> > use ≪ or ≫.
>
> FWIW I'm in the same situation.
>
>
>         Stefan
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-12 14:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11 13:22 C-x 8 shorthands for ≤ and ≥ Kaushal
2015-05-11 13:29 ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 14:53   ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 14:57     ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 15:08       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-05-11 15:24       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-11 15:40       ` Yuri Khan
2015-05-11 15:46         ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 16:27         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-05-11 16:34           ` Rasmus
2015-05-11 16:54           ` Kaushal
2015-05-11 20:34           ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-05-11 22:13             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-11 22:33               ` C-x 8 shorthands for = and = Drew Adams
2015-05-12 14:14               ` Kaushal [this message]
2015-05-12 15:58                 ` C-x 8 shorthands for ≤ and ≥ Kaushal
2015-05-11 18:26     ` Werner LEMBERG
2015-05-11 19:41       ` Kaushal

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