From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 14:39:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmnYuanVvxQgRVRqrGA7ZTjN2zkcGey3-rwUa_B38PwhAA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf11tlzf.fsf@gnus.org>
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> If you just want to use a newish Emacs (as opposed to develop with it),
> you're pulling down the sources and building it casually. (And probably
> updating once in a while.)
>
> If your system is slow, doing a native build can be punishing (and might
> well turn these people off Emacs altogether).
That sounds a bit odd to me. Why would users with slow machines
constantly rebuild Emacs, to the point that they get turned off Emacs
altogether? Wouldn't they just settle for running the latest stable
release long before that point?
My expectation would be that casual Emacs users install it with their
package manager, and those who prefer building it just use the latest
stable tarball. (I was personally in the latter group for over a
decade, as Debian stable is constantly one release behind or so.)
Of course, many people do track master, but I would put them firmly in
the "enthusiast" camp. Such users will surely understand that there is
a cost associated with running master, no?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-03 22:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-02 19:25 Enabling native compilation by default when libgccjit is present Andrea Corallo
2021-12-02 19:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 16:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-03 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-03 21:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-03 18:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-03 21:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-03 22:39 ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2021-12-04 2:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-04 7:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-04 19:28 ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-04 19:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-04 19:57 ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-05 5:04 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-05 5:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 5:29 ` Po Lu
2021-12-05 5:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 5:46 ` Po Lu
2021-12-05 5:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 6:00 ` Po Lu
2021-12-05 5:54 ` Tim Cross
2021-12-05 8:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05 11:27 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-05 14:15 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-05 16:52 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-05 17:42 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-05 20:48 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-05 17:10 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-05 19:25 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-05 20:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-05 22:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-05 19:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05 20:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 23:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-05 23:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 23:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-05 20:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-05 21:44 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-05 21:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 22:58 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-05 21:15 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-06 4:33 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-06 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-06 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-06 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07 16:02 ` Matt Armstrong
2021-12-07 16:55 ` tomas
2021-12-07 17:02 ` T.V Raman
2021-12-05 20:00 ` Jim Myhrberg
2021-12-06 1:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-06 2:50 ` Jim Myhrberg
2021-12-06 12:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-07 0:34 ` João Pedro de Amorim Paula
2021-12-08 4:34 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-09 17:00 ` David Koppelman
2021-12-06 4:33 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-03 22:34 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-04 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-07 4:38 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-07 5:02 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-07 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 2:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-08 9:55 ` Robert Pluim
2021-12-09 0:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-08 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 8:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-12-08 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09 0:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-09 4:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-09 5:27 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-09 10:22 ` Andrea Corallo
2021-12-09 13:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-09 22:28 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-09 22:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-10 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-11 3:11 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-07 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 2:25 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-08 2:40 ` Po Lu
2021-12-08 3:39 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-08 12:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 17:08 ` T.V Raman
2021-12-08 13:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-12-08 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09 7:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-08 12:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-09 0:44 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-12-09 4:13 ` Richard Stallman
2021-12-09 9:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-12-05 17:24 Angelo Graziosi
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