From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>
To: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: Nic Ferrier <nferrier@ferrier.me.uk>,
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Rename `eww' to `web'
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:18:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAF+z6GcTW6_aW1UM1BdiNy+iG2aUKd85nJNnd9w0i2oFhL9Qw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F1C3CE86-5D07-41DA-9AB7-483887AE3F32@swipnet.se>
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Jan Djärv <jan.h.d@swipnet.se> wrote:
> Hello.
Hi Jan,
> 30 jun 2013 kl. 01:30 skrev Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 4:30 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>>> Making things easy for users must take priority.
>>
>> Well, we can do many things that can make (most) users easy. For
>> example:
>>
>> * Turn on cua-mode by default
>
> This user would hate that.
>
>> * Add a "redo" command
>
> Might be nice.
>
>> * Change the terminology of “kill” to “cut”, and “yank” to “paste”
>
> But kill is strictly not the same as cut, and yank is not the same as paste.
Or, as Bob suggested, change "kill" to "clip". See (info "(eintr)
Cutting & Storing Text"). BTW what's the difference of kill and cut
(and yank/paste)?
>> * Switch the terminology of “window” and “frame”
>
> Should reduce some confusion.
>
>> * Change the terminology of “car” to “first”, and “cdr” to “rest”
>
> Not sure many users care. Most users don't program lisp.
I agree. I just picked some random examples in my mind, and haven't
done any research.
>> But we can't, since many of them will break existing users'
>> configuration. Although eww doesn't have this problem, I think we
>> should think twice before "making things easy for users".
>
> Also, what is easy for one user is a pain for another. Not all you
> suggestions are even obviously easier for a user.
So I said "most" (just in my opinion) users. Maybe we should do some
social researches (polls) or systematic analysis, like this
survey[fn:1]. If we can't, picking something in etc/TODO and implement
it is better than span this thread into hundreds of messages and
debates. (And in the end, typically nothing is done or changed.)
Footnotes:
[fn:1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html
--
Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <<E1Usw6G-0001Et-0A@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-06-29 15:05 ` Rename `eww' to `web' Drew Adams
2013-06-29 15:15 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-29 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-29 20:45 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-29 21:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-29 21:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-06-29 21:48 ` Bastien
2013-06-29 23:01 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-30 6:36 ` Bastien
2013-06-30 10:30 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 3:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-30 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 15:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-30 17:53 ` chad
2013-06-30 18:21 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-30 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-30 5:54 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-29 23:30 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-30 7:56 ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-30 9:18 ` Xue Fuqiao [this message]
2013-06-30 10:04 ` Jan Djärv
2013-07-01 2:03 ` Miles Bader
2013-06-29 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-29 20:52 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1Ut1mo-0004ns-A6@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-06-29 20:40 ` Drew Adams
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1Ut7hQ-0000Eq-Tt@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-06-30 3:23 ` Drew Adams
2013-06-30 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-29 14:26 Richard Stallman
2013-06-29 15:33 ` Daimrod
2013-06-29 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-30 2:35 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-29 23:20 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-30 5:49 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-30 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-01 12:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-03 8:29 ` Miles Bader
2013-07-03 16:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-03 16:22 ` Glenn Morris
2013-07-03 19:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-03 22:50 ` Tim Cross
2013-07-04 0:24 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-04 1:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-04 1:58 ` chad
2013-07-04 5:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-07-04 15:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-04 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 3:16 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-04 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-05 2:19 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 18:49 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 19:15 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-04 21:08 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-07-04 21:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-05 2:50 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 22:41 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-04 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-05 23:41 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-05 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-06 3:26 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-04 23:40 ` Glenn Morris
2013-07-05 1:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 10:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 11:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 12:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 22:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 23:37 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-06 0:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 23:29 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-05 23:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 23:55 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-06 0:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-06 0:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-06 22:00 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-05 0:04 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-05 5:37 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-05 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-07 0:24 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-07 0:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-04 22:53 ` Josh
2013-07-05 17:20 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 1:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-04 7:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-04 2:09 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2013-07-04 2:17 ` Glenn Morris
2013-07-04 3:44 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2013-07-04 4:10 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 4:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-07-05 3:23 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 9:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-04 15:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-05 11:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 18:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-06 0:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-06 4:28 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-06 5:28 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-06 9:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-04 14:28 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2013-07-04 15:08 ` Stephen Berman
2013-07-04 22:35 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-06 20:02 ` Stephen Berman
2013-07-05 3:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 15:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-06 15:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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