From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rename `eww' to `web'
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 21:15:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87obaixhkr.fsf@informatimago.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E1UuoaY-0002wY-F3@fencepost.gnu.org
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> [ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider
> [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,
> [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example.
>
> Years ago, I had a real problem remembering M-x ielm. Because I only used
> this command occasionally, I was never able to remember it.
>
> I never remember ielm, and when I see that name, I have no idea what
> it does. I recall I looked it up once, perhaps a year ago, but
> nothing stuck. I had to look it up again now.
>
> `ielm' might be a good file name prefix, if this had multiple files.
> A prefix needs to be short. But the package should have a natural
> name for users.
Let's just have a configuration module that let map user interface
commands to the selected package.
M-x mail --> vm, gnus, mew, or whatever.
M-x news --> gnus or something else.
M-x web --> w3m, www, eww or whatever.
M-x elisp -> ielm or *scratch*
> One thing I don't understand is why this is better than the *scratch*
> buffer and Lisp Interaction Mode. What are the advantages of ielm?
> Should the *scratch* buffer be implemented by ielm? Or would that
> have some drawback?
It's not the same kind of interaction. ielm simulates an "interactive"
REPL, like other lisps or shells. Even slime has both kinds of
interactions available, the *scratch* like, and the repl one.
Also, compare the results:
(+ 1 2) C-u C-x C-e (+ 3 4) C-u C-x C-e (or perhaps with C-j) in *scratch* displays:
(+ 1 2)3 (#o3, #x3, ?\C-c) (+ 3 4)7
(+ 1 2)RET(+ 3 4)RET in *ielm* displays:
ELISP> (+ 1 2)
3
ELISP> (+ 3 4)
7
ELISP>
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.
You know you've been lisping too long when you see a recent picture of George
Lucas and think "Wait, I thought John McCarthy was dead!" -- Dalek_Baldwin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-04 19:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-29 14:26 Rename `eww' to `web' Richard Stallman
2013-06-29 15:33 ` Daimrod
2013-06-29 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-30 2:35 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-29 23:20 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-30 5:49 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-30 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-01 12:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-03 8:29 ` Miles Bader
2013-07-03 16:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-03 16:22 ` Glenn Morris
2013-07-03 19:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-03 22:50 ` Tim Cross
2013-07-04 0:24 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-04 1:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-04 1:58 ` chad
2013-07-04 5:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-07-04 15:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-04 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 3:16 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-04 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-05 2:19 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 18:49 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 19:15 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon [this message]
2013-07-04 21:08 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-07-04 21:58 ` Drew Adams
2013-07-05 2:50 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 22:41 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-04 23:45 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-05 23:41 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-05 23:59 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-06 3:26 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-04 23:40 ` Glenn Morris
2013-07-05 1:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 10:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 11:50 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 12:59 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 22:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 23:37 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-06 0:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 23:29 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-05 23:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-05 23:55 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-06 0:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-06 0:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-06 22:00 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-05 0:04 ` Juri Linkov
2013-07-05 5:37 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-05 17:19 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-07 0:24 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-07-07 0:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-07-04 22:53 ` Josh
2013-07-05 17:20 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 0:06 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 1:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-04 7:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2013-07-04 2:09 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2013-07-04 2:17 ` Glenn Morris
2013-07-04 3:44 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2013-07-04 4:10 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 4:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-07-05 3:23 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 9:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-04 15:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-05 11:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-05 18:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-06 0:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-06 4:28 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-06 5:28 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-06 9:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-07-04 14:28 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2013-07-04 15:08 ` Stephen Berman
2013-07-04 22:35 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-07-06 20:02 ` Stephen Berman
2013-07-05 3:04 ` Jambunathan K
2013-07-04 23:36 ` Richard Stallman
2013-07-04 15:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-07-06 15:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
[not found] <<E1Usw6G-0001Et-0A@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-06-29 15:05 ` Drew Adams
2013-06-29 15:15 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-29 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-29 20:45 ` Nic Ferrier
2013-06-29 21:33 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-29 21:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-06-29 21:48 ` Bastien
2013-06-29 23:01 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-30 6:36 ` Bastien
2013-06-30 10:30 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 3:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-30 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-30 15:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-06-30 17:53 ` chad
2013-06-30 18:21 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-30 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-06-30 5:54 ` Jambunathan K
2013-06-29 23:30 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-30 7:56 ` Jan Djärv
2013-06-30 9:18 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-06-30 10:04 ` Jan Djärv
2013-07-01 2:03 ` Miles Bader
2013-06-29 20:30 ` Richard Stallman
2013-06-29 20:52 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1Ut1mo-0004ns-A6@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-06-29 20:40 ` Drew Adams
2013-06-30 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <<E1Ut7hQ-0000Eq-Tt@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-06-30 3:23 ` Drew Adams
2013-06-30 13:40 ` Richard Stallman
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