From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com>
Cc: 0278C47F-42CE-45C4-B789-83C57DF1A191@bydasein.com,
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: declare function/macro private
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2021 06:20:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977877ABCC09037790ACAF596379@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210608011456.zc56i2i22tboxcgf@E15-2016.optimum.net> (Boruch Baum's message of "Mon, 7 Jun 2021 21:14:56 -0400")
Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com> writes:
> On 2021-06-07 15:39, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> > Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 23:35:26 -0400
>> > From: Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com>
>> > Cc: "Paul W. Rankin" <0278C47F-42CE-45C4-B789-83C57DF1A191@bydasein.com>,
>> > Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
>> >
>> > On Sun, 06 Jun 2021 22:54:41 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> >
>> > > My current guess is that you fear that "--" has currently been used
>> > > carelessly
>> >
>> > Using 'ivy/counsel' and performing M-x -- gives me 56 completion
>> > candidates. 23 are from magit, Here are the rest:
>>
>> You need to remove from this list those which are intended for
>> invocation via the mouse. They aren't relevant to the issue at hand,
>> because the "--" was used there "for other purposes".
>
> The point was just to support Paul Rankin's position that a '--'
> substring isn't a reliable determinant of a function's public/private
> nature, so can't be used as an alternative to an explicit (optional)
> declaration.
>
> My concern isn't the declaration, but the scope of its consequences. For
> example, an emacs user who does no elisp programming would be happy to
> have no private variable/function results appear among completion
> candidates when performing M-x describe-variable/function. Elisp
> programmers would want those completion candidates exposed, and subject
> to being extended/advised.
How would Emacs now if it was a programmer asking or not programmer
asking? :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-08 4:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-06-07 3:35 declare function/macro private Boruch Baum
2021-06-07 4:49 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-07 5:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-07 6:45 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-07 12:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-08 1:14 ` Boruch Baum
2021-06-08 4:20 ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-06-08 5:49 ` tomas
2021-06-08 15:46 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-06-06 4:27 Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-06 7:09 ` Omar Polo
2021-06-06 7:18 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-06 9:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-06 12:43 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-08 9:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-08 17:26 ` Robin Tarsiger
2021-06-06 18:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-06 18:12 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-06-06 20:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-07 0:51 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-07 1:37 ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-07 1:43 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-07 13:38 ` Arthur Miller
2021-06-07 0:59 ` Paul W. Rankin via Emacs development discussions.
2021-06-07 2:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-06-07 18:24 ` Arthur Miller
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