From: Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com>
Cc: Daiki Ueno <ueno@unixuser.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc>,
ding@gnus.org, Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Subject: Re: gpg-agent support removed?!
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:14:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zmixfur1.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m21ww9ekvv.fsf_-_@kenny.sha-bang.de> (Sascha Wilde's message of "Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:32:36 +0200")
Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> writes:
> And why was it done without any discussion or even informing the
> people involved?!?
Since PGG is historically a Gnus package, it was discussed on the ding
mailing-list, which you obviously don't read... :-)
The relevant sub-thread starts here:
<URL: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/62545>
The reasons why this was done are:
1) The new code has bugs and is a major rewrite from previous versions;
it isn't yet very stable, at least not enough for a stable Gnus
release.
2) A new Gnus v5.10 release is due out this week-end, so there wasn't
enough time to fix the bugs in the new code, hence the decision to
revert it in Gnus 5.10. Since Emacs 22 is supposed to have Gnus
5.10, I reverted the changes in Emacs CVS in order to keep the
upcoming Gnus release and Emacs in sync.
3) The changes broke allout.el's encryption features, and require a
transition to ensure that allout and PGG can work correctly together
without breakage.
4) We're trying to get Emacs to a releasable state, and introducing new
features right now might not be the best idea, depending on how
seriously you take the feature freeze.
At the moment, the plan is to let the new code mature in the Gnus trunk
(not the Emacs trunk), and then sync it back in Gnus' v5-10 branch and
the Emacs trunk once things have settled down. I realize that part of
the problem is that PGG is maintained as a Gnus package in Gnus, and as
a general-purpose package in Emacs...
Hoping this clarifies the situation,
--
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Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-30 17:24 new version of allout.el - patch and ChangeLog Ken Manheimer
2005-09-30 21:06 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-09-30 21:52 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-01 8:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-01 12:41 ` Reiner Steib
2005-10-01 23:54 ` James Cloos
2005-10-01 16:28 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-02 10:48 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-02 14:23 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-02 20:31 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-03 19:25 ` pgg symmetric encryption patch (was: new version of allout.el - patch and ChangeLog) Sascha Wilde
2005-10-03 19:50 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-04 10:53 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-04 12:46 ` pgg symmetric encryption patch Stefan Monnier
2005-10-05 16:19 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-05 19:16 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-10 4:15 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-06 2:18 ` Daiki Ueno
2005-10-06 9:01 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-06 22:41 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-07 10:00 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-07 18:06 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-07 21:49 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-08 8:48 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-08 10:36 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-08 11:14 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-08 12:56 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-08 22:56 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-10 21:50 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-11 14:44 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-08 13:43 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-08 18:31 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-08 19:16 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-10 21:15 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-10 21:16 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-12 23:47 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 14:08 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 14:12 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-20 14:30 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 14:42 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-25 7:23 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-25 20:26 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-25 21:18 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-25 21:28 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-26 9:57 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-26 15:45 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-27 7:37 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-29 11:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-29 19:50 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-31 17:30 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-11-04 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-20 18:07 ` Relocating pgg*.el (was: pgg symmetric encryption patch) Reiner Steib
2005-10-20 22:22 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-10-21 4:49 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-20 23:38 ` pgg symmetric encryption patch Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-21 7:07 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-18 21:17 ` Small patch to enable use of gpg-agent with pgg Sascha Wilde
2006-03-18 23:30 ` Daniel Pittman
2006-03-19 0:46 ` Miles Bader
2006-03-19 3:45 ` Daniel Pittman
2006-03-19 18:28 ` Miles Bader
2006-03-19 9:49 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-19 17:30 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-21 14:32 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-21 21:29 ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-22 9:49 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 8:36 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-22 9:16 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-22 9:48 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 11:03 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-22 11:13 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 12:25 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 10:40 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 11:00 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:18 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 13:08 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-24 5:51 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-26 0:29 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-26 1:08 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-26 3:29 ` Miles Bader
2006-03-26 5:06 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-26 17:05 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-26 18:24 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-27 9:36 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:52 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 20:07 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 22:16 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-05 9:13 ` pgg-gpg broken? Sascha Wilde
2006-04-05 9:42 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-05 10:18 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-05 21:33 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-06 9:00 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-06 9:21 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-06 9:58 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-06 10:13 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 10:32 ` gpg-agent support removed?! (was: pgg-gpg broken?) Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 12:11 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-04-07 12:14 ` Romain Francoise [this message]
2006-04-07 13:00 ` gpg-agent support removed?! Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 13:30 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-04-07 20:59 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-08 9:36 ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-08 10:05 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 12:35 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 13:02 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 13:08 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 13:26 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-09 16:04 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-10 18:04 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 13:40 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 14:05 ` Thomas Baumann
2006-04-07 14:40 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 15:45 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 20:55 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 21:22 ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-08 7:03 ` Thomas Baumann
2006-04-08 10:18 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 21:36 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-08 9:45 ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-08 10:11 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-08 11:30 ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-08 11:58 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-10 18:04 ` PGG maintainance (was: gpg-agent support removed?!) Reiner Steib
2006-04-10 22:40 ` gpg-agent support removed?! Ken Manheimer
2006-04-08 22:34 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-05 16:14 ` pgg-gpg broken? Reiner Steib
2006-04-05 19:22 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-22 9:46 ` Small patch to enable use of gpg-agent with pgg Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 16:13 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 23:01 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-03-22 23:45 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 0:58 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-03-23 9:12 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 10:26 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 10:54 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 11:12 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 11:16 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:51 ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-23 13:07 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 13:10 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:00 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 13:00 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-26 18:11 ` Sascha Wilde
[not found] ` <m2wtels74l.fsf@kenny.sha-bang .de>
2006-03-23 23:09 ` Miles Bader
2006-04-02 0:30 ` Ken Manheimer
2006-04-02 8:28 ` Daiki Ueno
2005-12-09 15:43 ` pgg symmetric encryption patch Simon Josefsson
2005-12-09 20:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-09 20:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-10 4:13 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-10 10:50 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-12-11 13:32 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-12-11 13:42 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-02 17:08 ` new version of allout.el - patch and ChangeLog Richard M. Stallman
[not found] ` <E1ELj0L-0000Pn-3T@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-10-01 22:33 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 13:57 ` Ken Manheimer
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