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From: Ken Manheimer <ken.manheimer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: pgg symmetric encryption patch
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:31:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2cd46e7f0510081131h14e2bbeaga7f1a33ebd6347c8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051008103627.GA1218@kenny.sha-bang.local>

On 10/8/05, Sascha Wilde <wilde@sha-bang.de> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 10:48:27AM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> > It seems you are making some progress here.  For simplicity, could you
> > post the complete patch (preferably in unified diff format) against
> > Emacs CVS you want to have installed?  Unless somebody else has
> > already taken care of this...
>
> I attached the complete patch against the latest cvs checkout.

i've got another take on the cumulative patch, with the addition of
some refinements i would like to add.

the patch is against the gnu.org repository, and incorporates recent
checkins there as of a few minutes ago.

here are the details of my further refinements, which are included in
this patch.   their purpose is to enable external management of the
passphrases, including prompting and caching, while still using the
pgg encryption and cache mechanisms.  the changes have two thrusts:

  - extend the (generic pgg and gpg scheme) encryption and decryption
    routines to take an optional passphrase argument, and when provided,
    use its value instead of prompting for the passphrase

  - extend the passphrase caching and prompting routines to take an optional
    'notruncate' argument, to enable caching of passphrases for keys besides
    those that have the format of the short pgp packet key id.

i think that these, together, will enable me to do the passphrase
handling and extend it to symmetric keys, while still leveraging the
features of the pgg mechanism (in particular, passphrase expiration). 
i am pretty sure it's all backwards compatible - all the additional
functionality hinges on using the new optional arguments, there should
be no operational changes if you don't use them.

(i am very puzzled about why the passphrase cache was restricted to
the length of the short pgp packet key ids.  seems like you want to
couple the passphrases with the user identity for which the message is
being encoded, in the case of key-pair ciphers, or some arbitrary
string for symmetric ciphers - eg, file name is what i want to use for
symmetric keys in allout, since the symmetric keys are associated with
the files.  but once again i don't know the pgp territory well enough
to wade in, and want to minimize the chance of inadvertantly breaking
anything.

if this approach is deemed to be fine, i can easily provide an
additional patch to adjust the pgg-pgp and pgg-pgp5 modules similarly.

ken
ken.manheimer@gmail.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-10-08 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-30 17:24 new version of allout.el - patch and ChangeLog Ken Manheimer
2005-09-30 21:06 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-09-30 21:52   ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-01  8:20     ` Andreas Schwab
2005-10-01 12:41       ` Reiner Steib
2005-10-01 23:54         ` James Cloos
2005-10-01 16:28     ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-02 10:48       ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-02 14:23         ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-02 20:31         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-03 19:25           ` pgg symmetric encryption patch (was: new version of allout.el - patch and ChangeLog) Sascha Wilde
2005-10-03 19:50             ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-04 10:53               ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-04 12:46                 ` pgg symmetric encryption patch Stefan Monnier
2005-10-05 16:19                 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-05 19:16                   ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-10  4:15                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-06  2:18                   ` Daiki Ueno
2005-10-06  9:01                     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-06 22:41                       ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-07 10:00                         ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-07 18:06                           ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-07 21:49                             ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-08  8:48                               ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-08 10:36                                 ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-08 11:14                                   ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-08 12:56                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-08 22:56                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-10 21:50                                         ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-11 14:44                                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-08 13:43                                     ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-08 18:31                                   ` Ken Manheimer [this message]
2005-10-08 19:16                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-10 21:15                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-10 21:16                                       ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-12 23:47                                       ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 14:08                                         ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 14:12                                           ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-20 14:30                                             ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 14:42                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-25  7:23                                               ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-25 20:26                                                 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-25 21:18                                                   ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-25 21:28                                                     ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-26  9:57                                                       ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-26 15:45                                                         ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-27  7:37                                                           ` Sascha Wilde
2005-10-29 11:42                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-29 19:50                                                               ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-31 17:30                                                                 ` Ken Manheimer
2005-11-04 14:45                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-10-20 18:07                                             ` Relocating pgg*.el (was: pgg symmetric encryption patch) Reiner Steib
2005-10-20 22:22                                               ` Kim F. Storm
2005-10-21  4:49                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-20 23:38                                             ` pgg symmetric encryption patch Richard M. Stallman
2005-10-21  7:07                                               ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-18 21:17                                             ` Small patch to enable use of gpg-agent with pgg Sascha Wilde
2006-03-18 23:30                                               ` Daniel Pittman
2006-03-19  0:46                                                 ` Miles Bader
2006-03-19  3:45                                                   ` Daniel Pittman
2006-03-19 18:28                                                     ` Miles Bader
2006-03-19  9:49                                                 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-19 17:30                                                   ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-21 14:32                                               ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-21 21:29                                                 ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-22  9:49                                                   ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22  8:36                                                 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-22  9:16                                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-22  9:48                                                     ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 11:03                                                     ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-22 11:13                                                       ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 12:25                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 10:40                                                           ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 11:00                                                             ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:18                                                               ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 13:08                                                                 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-24  5:51                                                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-26  0:29                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-26  1:08                                                                       ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-26  3:29                                                                         ` Miles Bader
2006-03-26  5:06                                                                           ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-26 17:05                                                                             ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-26 18:24                                                                               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-27  9:36                                                                                 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:52                                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 20:07                                                               ` Daiki Ueno
2006-03-23 22:16                                                                 ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-05  9:13                                                                   ` pgg-gpg broken? Sascha Wilde
2006-04-05  9:42                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-05 10:18                                                                       ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-05 21:33                                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-06  9:00                                                                           ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-06  9:21                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-06  9:58                                                                               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-06 10:13                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 10:32                                                                                 ` gpg-agent support removed?! (was: pgg-gpg broken?) Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 12:11                                                                                   ` Simon Josefsson
2006-04-07 12:14                                                                                   ` gpg-agent support removed?! Romain Francoise
2006-04-07 13:00                                                                                     ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 13:30                                                                                       ` Simon Josefsson
2006-04-07 20:59                                                                                         ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-08  9:36                                                                                       ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-08 10:05                                                                                         ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 12:35                                                                                   ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 13:02                                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 13:08                                                                                       ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-07 13:26                                                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-09 16:04                                                                                           ` Sascha Wilde
2006-04-10 18:04                                                                                             ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 13:40                                                                                         ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 14:05                                                                                       ` Thomas Baumann
2006-04-07 14:40                                                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 15:45                                                                                           ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-07 20:55                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 21:22                                                                                               ` Reiner Steib
2006-04-08  7:03                                                                                                 ` Thomas Baumann
2006-04-08 10:18                                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-07 21:36                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-08  9:45                                                                                       ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-08 10:11                                                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-08 11:30                                                                                           ` Romain Francoise
2006-04-08 11:58                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2006-04-10 18:04                                                                                               ` PGG maintainance (was: gpg-agent support removed?!) Reiner Steib
2006-04-10 22:40                                                                                           ` gpg-agent support removed?! Ken Manheimer
2006-04-08 22:34                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-05 16:14                                                                     ` pgg-gpg broken? Reiner Steib
2006-04-05 19:22                                                                       ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-22  9:46                                                   ` Small patch to enable use of gpg-agent with pgg Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 16:13                                                   ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-22 23:01                                                     ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-03-22 23:45                                                       ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23  0:58                                                         ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2006-03-23  9:12                                                           ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 10:26                                                             ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 10:54                                                               ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 11:12                                                                 ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 11:16                                                                   ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:51                                                                     ` Reiner Steib
2006-03-23 13:07                                                                       ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 13:10                                                                         ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-23 12:00                                                                   ` Sascha Wilde
2006-03-23 13:00                                                                     ` Simon Josefsson
2006-03-26 18:11                                                                       ` Sascha Wilde
     [not found]                                                                   ` <m2wtels74l.fsf@kenny.sha-bang .de>
2006-03-23 23:09                                                                     ` Miles Bader
2006-04-02  0:30                                                                       ` Ken Manheimer
2006-04-02  8:28                                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2005-12-09 15:43                         ` pgg symmetric encryption patch Simon Josefsson
2005-12-09 20:30                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-09 20:31                           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-12-10  4:13                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-10 10:50                             ` Simon Josefsson
2005-12-11 13:32                               ` Sascha Wilde
2005-12-11 13:42                                 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-10-02 17:08       ` new version of allout.el - patch and ChangeLog Richard M. Stallman
     [not found] ` <E1ELj0L-0000Pn-3T@fencepost.gnu.org>
2005-10-01 22:33   ` Ken Manheimer
2005-10-20 13:57     ` Ken Manheimer

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