From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2017 19:09:36 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tw1n53rj.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvy3qz3uhd.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org
On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:21:56 -0400 Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>>> IMO, it isn't right to display notifications there from a program that
>>>> runs in the foreground. Too far from user eyes, too.
SM> Agreed. This functionality is for use when Emacs wants to notify the
SM> user about something happening elsewhere than where the user is
SM> currently focused.
>> I respectfully disagree. Notifications don't have an implicit user
>> attention scope. They are posted no matter where the user is focused,
>> typically in a globally shared area of the screen to make them easy to
>> notice and consistent in appearance.
SM> But exactly because it's posted in a area independent from the current
SM> focus, it makes it rather undesirable to use it for something that is
SM> currently in focus.
You're right, I see your point.
Would it be acceptable to use the system notifications now, and start a
bigger effort to provide an Emacs-native, focus-aware notification
system? Or do you think such a system is easy enough that an
intermediate stage is just not needed?
SM> Can you give me examples where this notification area is used by other
SM> programs for something related to the current user's action? In my
SM> experience, in such situations they'll rather use something like
SM> a tooltip, a dialog box, or some message shown within the application's
SM> own window.
I've seen it done for background actions that the user initiated. But
you're right that typically this is inside the application. I was
thinking of more generic notifications that are not bound to the user's
attention scope.
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-04 23:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-12 13:03 Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 13:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-12 14:30 ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:36 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-12 14:39 ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-12 15:59 ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-12 16:10 ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 19:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-13 8:45 ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-13 12:25 ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 13:29 ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 12:02 ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 12:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-01 13:01 ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 14:45 ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-01 14:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-01 15:12 ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 17:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-03 11:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-03 15:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-03 19:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 5:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-04 13:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-04 17:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 19:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 21:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 23:09 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2017-08-05 7:21 ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-06 19:17 ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs) Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-07 1:42 ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package John Wiegley
2017-08-11 13:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-15 17:06 ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-15 17:13 ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package John Wiegley
2017-08-04 14:59 ` Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Michael Albinus
2017-08-03 19:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-04 21:35 ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-03 19:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 3:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 13:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 15:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-04 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-07 9:54 ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-10 15:33 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-11 3:15 ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-11 13:53 ` Ted Zlatanov
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