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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2017 16:53:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pocfibky.fsf@mouse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4037dc81-4245-6925-842a-2c84a5ba996d@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 1 Aug 2017 07:45:36 -0700")

Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> Last year I would have agreed, but nowadays I think it'd be better to
> warn about TLS 1.0 somehow. According to
> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssl-pulse/ from July 2016 to July 2017 TLS
> v1.2 support climbed from 78.3% to 87.3%, whereas support for TLS v1.0
> dropped from 97.3% to to 93.4% as the higher-end sites tighten up
> security. By the time the next version of Emacs comes out, it looks
> like a mild warning about TLS v1.0 will be appropriate.

Yes, I agree.  eww, for instance, could remove the green URL when using
TLS 1.0, etc.  But the proposed NSM warning (which would make the user
answer "y" to a direct question about the TLS-ness) is too heavy, in my
opinion.

But having the warning on the `high' NSM setting is fine with me, and
I'll see what I can do about removing green URLs from eww...

Other services, like SMTP/IMAP/etc will have to invent other
"lightweight" ways to tell the user that the content is on the insecure
side.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no



  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-01 14:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 13:03 Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 13:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-12 14:30   ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:36     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-12 14:39       ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:55         ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-12 15:59           ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-12 16:10       ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 19:05         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-13  8:45           ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-13 12:25           ` Richard Stallman
2017-07-13 13:29             ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 12:02               ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 12:38                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-01 13:01                   ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 14:45                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-01 14:53                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2017-08-01 15:12                       ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 17:56                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-03 11:48                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-03 15:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-03 19:30                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04  5:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-04 13:13                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 14:51                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-04 17:26                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 19:50                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 21:21                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 23:09                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-05  7:21                                       ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-06 19:17                                         ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs) Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-07  1:42                                           ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package John Wiegley
2017-08-11 13:55                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-15 17:06                                           ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-15 17:13                                             ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package John Wiegley
2017-08-04 14:59                                   ` Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Michael Albinus
2017-08-03 19:39                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-04 21:35                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-03 19:32                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04  3:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 13:09                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 15:02                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-04 17:29                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-07  9:54                               ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-10 15:33                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-11  3:15                                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-11 13:53                                     ` Ted Zlatanov

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