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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 08:25:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1dVdBY-0005SJ-QM@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fue1v5lr.fsf@mouse> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 12 Jul 2017 21:05:04 +0200)

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  > It is a refusal to access a resource because somebody has determined
  > that a specific protocol (HTTP + TLS1.0) is something that our users
  > shouldn't be able to use.

I agree -- our software should not absolutely refuse to communicate
a way that we judge risky.  We should explain the situation and state
how to enable that method (perhaps with a user option).

  > tell the user "you tried to access this via a secure channel.  It's not,
  > but here's the ... anyway".

I agree.

  > but here's the content anyway".

Please don't use the word "content" to refer to works or publications.
The term disparages all publications.
See https://gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-13 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 13:03 Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 13:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-12 14:30   ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:36     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-12 14:39       ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:55         ` Andreas Schwab
2017-07-12 15:59           ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 14:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-12 16:10       ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-12 19:05         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-07-13  8:45           ` Robert Pluim
2017-07-13 12:25           ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2017-07-13 13:29             ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 12:02               ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 12:38                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-01 13:01                   ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 14:45                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-01 14:53                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-01 15:12                       ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-01 17:56                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-03 11:48                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-03 15:52                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-03 19:30                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04  5:40                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-04 13:13                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 14:51                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-04 17:26                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 19:50                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 21:21                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 23:09                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-05  7:21                                       ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-06 19:17                                         ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs) Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-07  1:42                                           ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package John Wiegley
2017-08-11 13:55                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-15 17:06                                           ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package (was: Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs) Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-15 17:13                                             ` common Emacs notifications and alert.el (John W.) package John Wiegley
2017-08-04 14:59                                   ` Deprecate TLS1.0 support in emacs Michael Albinus
2017-08-03 19:39                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-04 21:35                             ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-03 19:32                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04  3:17                           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-04 13:09                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-04 15:02                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-08-04 17:29                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-07  9:54                               ` Robert Pluim
2017-08-10 15:33                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-11  3:15                                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-11 13:53                                     ` Ted Zlatanov

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