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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:50:57 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r3yco9n2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1XdW0E-0006SW-Bg@fencepost.gnu.org>

Richard Stallman writes:

 > The defaults for the standard Guile primitives could be strict,
 > and the defaults for some Emacs Lisp functions could be flexible.

Which is precisely what I proposed from the beginning[1], and as I
understand his posts, it is what Mark has had in mind throughout as
well.

Speaking *only* for myself, I would *prefer* defaults for text coding
set by Emacs to be strict, and I believe that is both in the average
user's interest and not too inconvenient *in today's environment*.[2]
But it should be easy for applications and modes to say to Emacs "do
what you would have done in Emacs 24" and "do what you would have done
in Emacs 24 *except* apply a strict(er) error handling on invalid
encoding".

Experience may show that my preferred default is too strict for Emacs,
even today, but I believe it is the place to start.

FWIW IMHO YMMV


Footnotes: 
[1]  Although my expression of that proposal seems to have been
unintelligible.  Sorry!

[2]  tl;dr

UTF-8 is rapidly becoming the preferred encoding for many natural
languages, although China encourages GB18030 by law and Japan and
Russia both maintain their historical Babel of encodings.  Protocols
are both becoming stricter about validation, and using the sensible
default of UTF-8.  Internet protocols, where security is a very
important aspect, are gradually shifting from insisting on ASCII to
defaulting to UTF-8 (although often in some kind of "ASCII-armored"
encoding such as BASE64 or punycode).

So in general, with a few application-specific exceptions (hello,
AUCTeX), both users and applications should encounter far fewer
instances of broken encoding than in the era when the experiments Eli
and David refer to were conducted.  This is somewhat supported by the
fact that at least one major dynamic language (Python) doesn't even
provide an encoding detection function in its standard library.  The
typical range of use cases is different, granted, but editing
applications (the IDLE IDE and the IPython "notebook" facility) don't
seem to have issues with defaulting to "strict".




  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-13  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 404+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-17  7:38 Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Kristian Nygaard Jensen
2014-09-17 15:15 ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 16:15   ` James Cloos
2014-09-17 17:53     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 21:46       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18  1:09         ` James Cloos
2014-09-18  7:12         ` Helmut Eller
2014-09-18  7:46         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-18 18:59       ` Johan Bockgård
2014-09-18 21:01       ` Sam Steingold
2014-09-19  0:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 12:24           ` Sam Steingold
2014-09-26 13:43 ` Robin Templeton
2014-09-26 14:15   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-26 14:45     ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-09-26 15:05       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27  8:44         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-27  8:59           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:30             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-26 15:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-26 15:21         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27  8:35         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-27  8:49           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27  9:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-27 10:37             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-27 11:13               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 12:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-27 14:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-27 14:24                     ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-27 15:41                         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:57                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-27 16:25                             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 17:23                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-28 23:22                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-29  1:33                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-29 20:48                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-05  7:53                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-05  9:01                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-05 10:43                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-05 11:10                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-05 11:56                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-05 14:30                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-05 15:48                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-05 18:29                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-05 21:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                       ` <"<83lhotme1e.fsf"@gnu.org>
2014-10-06  3:18                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-06 19:15                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07  0:46                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 14:04                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 15:43                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 16:01                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 18:15                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 16:16                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-10 10:09                                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-06  6:21                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-06 15:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 15:33                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 16:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 16:40                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 17:04                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-06 17:34                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  0:33                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 14:03                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:37                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 16:27                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-06 16:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 17:31                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 17:58                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  2:35                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 17:43                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-06 17:53                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  0:35                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 14:03                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:21                                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 15:16                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 15:33                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 15:42                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 16:03                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 16:16                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 16:24                                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 16:31                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 16:52                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 17:38                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-08  0:47                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-08  7:19                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-08  7:37                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 18:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-06 23:00                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07  1:04                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-07 14:03                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:04                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:14                                                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                                                   ` <"<83y4srjaot.fsf"@gnu.org>
2014-10-07 15:15                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 15:31                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 15:40                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 18:32                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 18:41                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 16:34                                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 17:50                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 18:36                                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 18:56                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 19:21                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 23:11                                                               ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-08  3:03                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-08 15:03                                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-08 15:11                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-08 15:54                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  3:26                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  4:14                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  7:31                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  8:05                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-11 18:50                                                                 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-07 16:59                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-08  0:47                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-08  7:13                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  1:19                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09  7:21                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  7:52                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  8:41                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  9:22                                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  3:04                                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-13  7:41                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-10 14:24                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 15:28                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11  1:15                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11  7:18                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12  3:22                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11  7:18                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 23:51                                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-12  1:35                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-12  8:38                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12 12:16                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-12 12:34                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12 14:49                                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-12 16:50                                                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  2:40                                                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-13  4:49                                                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-13  3:08                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  4:50                                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2014-10-13  3:41                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:37                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12  3:24                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:47                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  3:07                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  3:38                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 14:24                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 15:38                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11  1:17                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11  7:23                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-11  7:33                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12  3:22                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:22                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  3:09                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  3:44                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  7:59                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  8:32                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  9:20                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12  5:44                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                             ` <<83r3yg9bpu.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-10 16:02                                                               ` Drew Adams
2014-10-10 16:10                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  7:36                                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-10 14:25                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:21                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-06 19:17                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-06 19:59                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  0:10                                               ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 14:04                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11 18:34                                         ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-05 21:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-06  3:34                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-08  0:48                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-08  2:09                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-08  3:07                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  3:06                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  3:44                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  7:16                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  7:47                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09 10:20                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-10 14:23                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09  1:19                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09  3:56                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  4:49                                                 ` Mike Gerwitz
2014-10-09  8:00                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09 10:50                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09 11:06                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09 17:23                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09 17:37                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12  3:24                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:54                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  3:10                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  5:35                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13  6:02                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  8:24                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13  8:58                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  9:45                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 10:17                                                                             ` Uwe Brauer
2014-10-13 10:30                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  9:05                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13 10:05                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 14:55                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-13 17:18                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 17:24                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13 17:49                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 18:04                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13 19:19                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  7:03                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  7:41                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  7:58                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14 10:06                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  8:34                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  9:21                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14 20:03                                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-15  3:07                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15  5:54                                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-15  7:17                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15  9:20                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 11:34                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15 11:57                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-15 12:32                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 13:22                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15 14:36                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 14:51                                                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-15 16:57                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15 17:18                                                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-15 18:39                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  2:11                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  5:43                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  2:09                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-14  6:24                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  7:48                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-15 13:16                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-15 14:32                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 14:43                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-16 18:12                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  3:46                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09 11:27                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 14:23                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 14:23                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 20:41                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-10 21:56                                         ` Christopher Allan Webber
2014-10-10 22:56                                           ` Drew Adams
2014-10-11  1:17                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-27 17:04                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-27 19:33                       ` Robin Templeton
2014-09-28  7:17                         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:34                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-29 13:17             ` K. Handa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-09-17  2:57 Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Lally Singh
2014-09-17 11:01 ` Tom
2014-09-17 12:28   ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 12:58     ` Tom
2014-09-17 13:39       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-09-17 14:15         ` Tom
2014-09-17 11:43 ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Richard Stallman
2014-09-17 14:21   ` Lally Singh
2014-09-17 15:04     ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-11 16:29 Guile emacs thread (again) Christopher Allan Webber
2014-09-16 15:50 ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Stefan Monnier
2014-09-16 16:03   ` Lennart Borgman
2014-09-17 18:24     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-09-17 18:42       ` Emacs Lisp's future Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-18  2:07       ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Alexis
2014-09-18 16:40         ` Emacs Lisp's future Daniel Colascione
2014-09-18  6:35       ` Andreas Röhler
2014-09-18 15:17         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 16:19           ` Ivan Andrus
2014-09-18 23:19             ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  7:18               ` Andreas Röhler
2014-09-19  8:10             ` Andreas Schwab
2014-09-19  8:46               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-16 16:54   ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-17 15:14     ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 16:57       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-16 16:59   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-16 22:58     ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-16 23:10       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 13:55       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 15:19         ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 16:23           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 18:10             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17  5:04     ` mhw
2014-09-17 14:03       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 14:39         ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 15:11           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 10:48   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-17 10:53     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17 11:21       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 11:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 13:50         ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 11:17   ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 11:35     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17 12:50     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 13:54       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 14:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 14:30           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 15:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 15:10           ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18  7:54             ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-17 15:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 15:07       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 15:33         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 20:11           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 22:42             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-09-18  2:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18  3:17               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  9:04                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18  9:27                   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 11:15                     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18  3:46             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  9:53               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 10:09                 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 11:29                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 12:07                     ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 14:12                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 14:56                         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 15:36                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 16:44                             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 17:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 17:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 20:21     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 12:48       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 14:15       ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 14:34         ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 15:01           ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 16:08             ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 16:18               ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 19:23               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18 23:18               ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  0:00                 ` Rasmus
2014-09-19  8:00                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-19 10:46                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-19 11:12                       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-19 16:16                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-19 11:38                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-19 18:02                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19 11:53                       ` Rasmus
2014-09-19 18:01                     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                     ` <<E1XV2UO-0005CA-Vk@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-09-19 18:43                       ` Drew Adams
2014-09-18 23:17           ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  0:03             ` Rasmus
2014-09-19 10:27               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-09-23  7:45               ` Emilio Lopes
2014-09-26 16:50               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2014-09-26 18:23                 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2014-09-29  8:33                   ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-29 13:19                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-29 14:47                       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-30  7:58                     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 12:19                       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-30 16:15                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-30 18:21                         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 19:18                           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 16:15                       ` Nicolas Richard
2014-09-30 17:54                         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 18:19                           ` Drew Adams
2014-09-26 20:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18 23:17         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 23:37           ` Rasmus
2014-09-19  2:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 22:49     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-09-17 12:46   ` Eric Brown
2014-09-17 13:33     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 13:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 15:11         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 20:23     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-17 21:13   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-20 19:31   ` Robin Templeton
2016-10-07 10:47   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-10-07 11:03     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2016-10-07 11:27       ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-10-07 11:48         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2016-10-08 14:00           ` Ben
2016-10-08 15:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-07 12:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-08  8:23       ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-08 12:07         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-08 14:26           ` Nicolas Petton
2016-10-08 20:57         ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-08 21:40           ` Nicolas Petton
2016-10-08 22:15           ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-10  9:00             ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-11  1:42               ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-11  7:47                 ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-11 14:44                   ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-12  3:17                 ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-13 21:23                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-13 21:35                     ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-17  0:44                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-10  4:09           ` Georges Ko
2016-10-10  4:51             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-10 13:56               ` Georges Ko
2016-10-11  4:06                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-11  4:18                   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11  7:16                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-11 13:33                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11 14:54                         ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-11 15:10                           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11 17:55                             ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-11 17:08                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-10 15:26             ` raman
2016-10-07 15:32     ` Kelvin White
2016-10-07 16:18     ` Søren Pilgård
2016-10-07 16:25       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-10-08  2:09       ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-08 20:58         ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-07 17:07     ` John Wiegley
2016-10-09 12:03       ` Toon Claes
2016-10-09 12:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10  2:59           ` John Wiegley
2016-10-10 15:24             ` raman
2016-10-09 12:43         ` Søren Pilgård
2016-10-09 13:13           ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-09 13:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
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