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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future
Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 18:52:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iojvakl9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvm8ukreta0.fsf@hawking.suse.de> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Tue, 07 Oct 2014 18:31:03 +0200")

Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
>>
>>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One problem with that is that quite often Emacs' choice of a coding
>>>>>>>> system for a buffer is the result of heuristics rather than dependable
>>>>>>>> information.  Not making a fuzz might often be simplest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you try to save a buffer Emacs will check whether all characters are
>>>>>>> encodable, and complain (and ask) if they aren't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, but a raw byte is trivially encodable since it is no character.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a contradiction.  It isn't a character, so it isn't encodable.
>>>>
>>>> The character representation of "raw byte" is trivially encodable since
>>>> it represents a single byte in any encoding.
>>>
>>> No encoding (except raw-text) can encode characters from the eight-bit
>>> charset.
>>
>> (encode-coding-string (string (decode-char 'eight-bit 128)) 'utf-8)
>> => "\200"
>
> That's what you get if you *force* the coding system.

It would appear that you are forcing your logic.  "No encoding can ..."
does not mean that.

> But Emacs will still complain and ask if you try to save such a
> buffer.

(let ((coding-system-for-write 'utf-8-unix))
  (with-temp-file "/tmp/bozo"
    (insert(encode-coding-string (string (decode-char 'eight-bit 128)) 'utf-8))))

od /tmp/bozo
0000000 000200
0000001

What you mean is that Emacs is asked to _select_ or to _verify_ a coding
system (as is customary for interactive editing of a file) it will do so
and get back to the user when necessary.

But that is _quite_ different from Emacs being _incapable_ of encoding
raw bytes to a file or a stream of a specified encoding.  It means that
when you are using an _application_ that is expected to deliver only
decodable characters, then the _application_ will _ask_ before going
ahead.

But the _engine_ is perfectly capable of going through here.  Once you
confuse engine and application and state "Emacs should not be able to
encode characters from the eight-bit set" rather than "the normal file
saving operation defaulting to using buffer-file-coding-system for
coding-system-for-write after verifying its suitability should ask
before picking a value of coding-system-for-write that cause a file to
be written that is not representable without raw bytes" you are
proposing to cripple Emacs.

Or GUILE.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-07 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 404+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-17  7:38 Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Kristian Nygaard Jensen
2014-09-17 15:15 ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 16:15   ` James Cloos
2014-09-17 17:53     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 21:46       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18  1:09         ` James Cloos
2014-09-18  7:12         ` Helmut Eller
2014-09-18  7:46         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-18 18:59       ` Johan Bockgård
2014-09-18 21:01       ` Sam Steingold
2014-09-19  0:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-19 12:24           ` Sam Steingold
2014-09-26 13:43 ` Robin Templeton
2014-09-26 14:15   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-26 14:45     ` Dmitry Antipov
2014-09-26 15:05       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27  8:44         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-27  8:59           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:30             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-26 15:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-26 15:21         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27  8:35         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-27  8:49           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27  9:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-27 10:37             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-27 11:13               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 12:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-27 14:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-27 14:24                     ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-27 15:41                         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:57                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-27 16:25                             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 17:23                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-28 23:22                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-29  1:33                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-29 20:48                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-05  7:53                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-05  9:01                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-05 10:43                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-05 11:10                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-05 11:56                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-05 14:30                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-05 15:48                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-05 18:29                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-05 21:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                                       ` <"<83lhotme1e.fsf"@gnu.org>
2014-10-06  3:18                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-06 19:15                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07  0:46                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 14:04                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 15:43                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 16:01                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 18:15                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 16:16                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-10 10:09                                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-06  6:21                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-06 15:08                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 15:33                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 16:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 16:40                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 17:04                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-06 17:34                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  0:33                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 14:03                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:37                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 16:27                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-06 16:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 17:31                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 17:58                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  2:35                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-06 17:43                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-06 17:53                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  0:35                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 14:03                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:21                                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 15:16                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 15:33                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 15:42                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 16:03                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 16:16                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 16:24                                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 16:31                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 16:52                                                                   ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-10-07 17:38                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-08  0:47                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-08  7:19                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-08  7:37                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-06 18:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-06 23:00                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07  1:04                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-07 14:03                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:04                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:14                                                 ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                                                   ` <"<83y4srjaot.fsf"@gnu.org>
2014-10-07 15:15                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 15:31                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-07 15:40                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 18:32                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 18:41                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 16:34                                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 17:50                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 18:36                                                           ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 18:56                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07 19:21                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-07 23:11                                                               ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-08  3:03                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-08 15:03                                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-08 15:11                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-08 15:54                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  3:26                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  4:14                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  7:31                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  8:05                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-11 18:50                                                                 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-07 16:59                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-08  0:47                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-08  7:13                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  1:19                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09  7:21                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  7:52                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  8:41                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  9:22                                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  3:04                                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-13  7:41                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-10 14:24                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 15:28                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11  1:15                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11  7:18                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12  3:22                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11  7:18                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 23:51                                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-12  1:35                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-12  8:38                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12 12:16                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-12 12:34                                                                           ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12 14:49                                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-12 16:50                                                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  2:40                                                                                 ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-13  4:49                                                                                   ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-13  3:08                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  4:50                                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13  3:41                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:37                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12  3:24                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:47                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  3:07                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  3:38                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 14:24                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 15:38                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11  1:17                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11  7:23                                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-11  7:33                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12  3:22                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:22                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  3:09                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  3:44                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  7:59                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  8:32                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  9:20                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-12  5:44                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                             ` <<83r3yg9bpu.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-10-10 16:02                                                               ` Drew Adams
2014-10-10 16:10                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09  7:36                                                     ` David Kastrup
2014-10-10 14:25                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-07 14:21                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-06 19:17                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-06 19:59                                               ` David Kastrup
2014-10-07  0:10                                               ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-07 14:04                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-11 18:34                                         ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-05 21:49                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-06  3:34                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-08  0:48                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-08  2:09                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-08  3:07                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  3:06                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  3:44                                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09  7:16                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  7:47                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09 10:20                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-10 14:23                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09  1:19                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09  3:56                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09  4:49                                                 ` Mike Gerwitz
2014-10-09  8:00                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-09 10:50                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-09 11:06                                                       ` David Kastrup
2014-10-09 17:23                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09 17:37                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12  3:24                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-12  5:54                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  3:10                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  5:35                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13  6:02                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13  8:24                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13  8:58                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  9:45                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 10:17                                                                             ` Uwe Brauer
2014-10-13 10:30                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13  9:05                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-13 10:05                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 14:55                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-13 17:18                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 17:24                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13 17:49                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-13 18:04                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-13 19:19                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  7:03                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  7:41                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  7:58                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14 10:06                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  8:34                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  9:21                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14 20:03                                                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-15  3:07                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15  5:54                                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-15  7:17                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15  9:20                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 11:34                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15 11:57                                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-15 12:32                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 13:22                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15 14:36                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 14:51                                                                                                   ` David Kastrup
2014-10-15 16:57                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-15 17:18                                                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2014-10-15 18:39                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-14  2:11                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  5:43                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  2:09                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-14  6:24                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-14  7:48                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2014-10-15 13:16                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-15 14:32                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-15 14:43                                                                             ` David Kastrup
2014-10-16 18:12                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-13  3:46                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-09 11:27                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 14:23                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 14:23                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-10 20:41                                       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-10-10 21:56                                         ` Christopher Allan Webber
2014-10-10 22:56                                           ` Drew Adams
2014-10-11  1:17                                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-27 17:04                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-27 19:33                       ` Robin Templeton
2014-09-28  7:17                         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-27 15:34                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-29 13:17             ` K. Handa
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-09-17  2:57 Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Lally Singh
2014-09-17 11:01 ` Tom
2014-09-17 12:28   ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 12:58     ` Tom
2014-09-17 13:39       ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-09-17 14:15         ` Tom
2014-09-17 11:43 ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Richard Stallman
2014-09-17 14:21   ` Lally Singh
2014-09-17 15:04     ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-11 16:29 Guile emacs thread (again) Christopher Allan Webber
2014-09-16 15:50 ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Stefan Monnier
2014-09-16 16:03   ` Lennart Borgman
2014-09-17 18:24     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2014-09-17 18:42       ` Emacs Lisp's future Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-18  2:07       ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Alexis
2014-09-18 16:40         ` Emacs Lisp's future Daniel Colascione
2014-09-18  6:35       ` Andreas Röhler
2014-09-18 15:17         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 16:19           ` Ivan Andrus
2014-09-18 23:19             ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  7:18               ` Andreas Röhler
2014-09-19  8:10             ` Andreas Schwab
2014-09-19  8:46               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-16 16:54   ` Emacs Lisp's future (was: Guile emacs thread (again)) Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-17 15:14     ` Emacs Lisp's future Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 16:57       ` Lars Brinkhoff
2014-09-16 16:59   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-16 22:58     ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-16 23:10       ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 13:55       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 15:19         ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 16:23           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 18:10             ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17  5:04     ` mhw
2014-09-17 14:03       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 14:39         ` Mark H Weaver
2014-09-17 15:11           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 10:48   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-17 10:53     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17 11:21       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 11:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 13:50         ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 11:17   ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 11:35     ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-17 12:50     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 13:54       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-17 14:24         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 14:30           ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 15:03             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 15:10           ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18  7:54             ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-17 15:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 15:07       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 15:33         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 20:11           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 22:42             ` Daniel Colascione
2014-09-18  2:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18  3:17               ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  9:04                 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18  9:27                   ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 11:15                     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18  3:46             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18  9:53               ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 10:09                 ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 11:29                   ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 12:07                     ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 14:12                       ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 14:56                         ` David Kastrup
2014-09-18 15:36                           ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-18 16:44                             ` David Kastrup
2014-09-17 17:13         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 17:33         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 20:21     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 12:48       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 14:15       ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 14:34         ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 15:01           ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 16:08             ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-18 16:18               ` Rasmus
2014-09-18 19:23               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18 23:18               ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  0:00                 ` Rasmus
2014-09-19  8:00                   ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-19 10:46                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-19 11:12                       ` David Kastrup
2014-09-19 16:16                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-19 11:38                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-19 18:02                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19 11:53                       ` Rasmus
2014-09-19 18:01                     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                     ` <<E1XV2UO-0005CA-Vk@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-09-19 18:43                       ` Drew Adams
2014-09-18 23:17           ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-19  0:03             ` Rasmus
2014-09-19 10:27               ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-09-23  7:45               ` Emilio Lopes
2014-09-26 16:50               ` Jonas Bernoulli
2014-09-26 18:23                 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2014-09-29  8:33                   ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-29 13:19                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-29 14:47                       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-30  7:58                     ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 12:19                       ` Phillip Lord
2014-09-30 16:15                       ` Nic Ferrier
2014-09-30 18:21                         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 19:18                           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 16:15                       ` Nicolas Richard
2014-09-30 17:54                         ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-09-30 18:19                           ` Drew Adams
2014-09-26 20:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-18 23:17         ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-18 23:37           ` Rasmus
2014-09-19  2:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-09-17 22:49     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-09-17 12:46   ` Eric Brown
2014-09-17 13:33     ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 13:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-09-17 15:11         ` Taylan Ulrich Bayirli/Kammer
2014-09-17 20:23     ` Richard Stallman
2014-09-17 21:13   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-20 19:31   ` Robin Templeton
2016-10-07 10:47   ` Lars Brinkhoff
2016-10-07 11:03     ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2016-10-07 11:27       ` Philippe Vaucher
2016-10-07 11:48         ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2016-10-08 14:00           ` Ben
2016-10-08 15:39             ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-07 12:52         ` Stefan Monnier
2016-10-08  8:23       ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-08 12:07         ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-08 14:26           ` Nicolas Petton
2016-10-08 20:57         ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-08 21:40           ` Nicolas Petton
2016-10-08 22:15           ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-10  9:00             ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-11  1:42               ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-11  7:47                 ` Helmut Eller
2016-10-11 14:44                   ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-12  3:17                 ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-13 21:23                   ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-13 21:35                     ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-17  0:44                       ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-10  4:09           ` Georges Ko
2016-10-10  4:51             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-10 13:56               ` Georges Ko
2016-10-11  4:06                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-11  4:18                   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11  7:16                     ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-11 13:33                       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11 14:54                         ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-11 15:10                           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-10-11 17:55                             ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-10-11 17:08                         ` Marcin Borkowski
2016-10-10 15:26             ` raman
2016-10-07 15:32     ` Kelvin White
2016-10-07 16:18     ` Søren Pilgård
2016-10-07 16:25       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-10-08  2:09       ` Tom Tromey
2016-10-08 20:58         ` Richard Stallman
2016-10-07 17:07     ` John Wiegley
2016-10-09 12:03       ` Toon Claes
2016-10-09 12:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-10  2:59           ` John Wiegley
2016-10-10 15:24             ` raman
2016-10-09 12:43         ` Søren Pilgård
2016-10-09 13:13           ` Philipp Stephani
2016-10-09 13:15           ` Eli Zaretskii
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