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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de, perry@piermont.com
Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution?
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:55:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lh92rpkv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834mfq9gqm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:43:45 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org,  deng@randomsample.de,  perry@piermont.com
>> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:09:59 +0100
>> 
>>     C-n runs the command next-line (found in global-map), which is an
>>     interactive compiled Lisp function in ‘simple.el’.
>> 
>>     This function is for interactive use only;
>>     in Lisp code use ‘forward-line’ instead.
>> 
>> There is a reason this function is for interactive use only.  And
>> replaying a keyboard macro is not interactive.
>> 
>>     If the variable ‘line-move-visual’ is non-nil, this command moves
>>     by display lines.  Otherwise, it moves by buffer lines, without
>>     taking variable-width characters or continued lines into account.
>> 
>> And this is _exactly_ why line-move-visual should be nil during macro
>> recording/replay because otherwise _no_ _useful_ behavior for
>> non-interactive use results.
>
> But then recording a macro and replaying it will do different things,
> no?

As I apparently did not state clearly enough, one would switch off
visual line mode during recording already (after all, during recording
one tries to achieve the effect that replay should have).

Yes, this will means that the same key sequence outside of macro
recording/replay and inside of it will have different effects.

I readily agree that this is ugly, and if you want to, even "wrong".
The alternative is "useless".  Which serves no point.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-10 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-09 21:39 Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-09 22:13 ` David Engster
2015-12-09 23:03   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 16:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:00       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 17:14         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:27         ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:33           ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 17:39             ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:10               ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 18:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:44               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 18:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 19:38                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:09                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:55                           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-12-10 20:16                       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:18                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:36                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:01                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 21:26                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 23:35                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-11  1:14                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-12-11  6:27                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 22:56                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:46                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-13  0:16                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-13  0:32                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:20                                     ` Per Starbäck
2015-12-12 16:51                                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-12 17:42                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:01                                     ` Disabling visual lines for macros (was: Speed of keyboard macro execution?) John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:33                                       ` Disabling visual lines for macros David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:45                             ` Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:13                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 17:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:43           ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:15       ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-10 18:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12  2:14       ` Joseph Mingrone
2015-12-12  7:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 17:28           ` Joseph Mingrone
2015-12-12 17:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 18:12               ` Joseph Mingrone

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