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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: deng@randomsample.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution?
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:00:51 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151210120051.6be8201f@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83r3iu9rvp.fsf@gnu.org>

On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:43:06 +0200 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 18:03:43 -0500
> > From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > 
> > On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 23:13:17 +0100 David Engster
> > <deng@randomsample.de> wrote:
> > > Perry E. Metzger writes:
> > > > Perhaps it would be good to dig in to what is causing the
> > > > issues in question...
> > > 
> > > Emacs does not cope very well with very long lines.
> > 
> > How might that be addressed?
> 
> This is simply bug#13675.
> 
> It's a bit disingenuous on the part of that person to compare Emacs
> with another editor _solely_ where there's a known inefficiency in
> Emacs, and pretend that this is somehow representative of the
> general differences in performance between these two editors.
> After all, how frequently do you need to edit files with lines in
> excess of 11K characters?

I don't know if it was disingenuous or not, but I think that being
able to improve performance would not be a bad thing. I've noticed
that a lot of things (like keyboard macros) are often slower than
expected in modern Emacs. We may, as a developer community, have
allowed the speed of modern hardware to lull us into complacency on
issues like performance. Emacs should be the best editor it can
be.

I suppose this ties back in to earlier discussions about automated
testing (as, among other things, automated testing can find
performance regressions before they matter.)

Perry
-- 
Perry E. Metzger		perry@piermont.com



  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-10 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-09 21:39 Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-09 22:13 ` David Engster
2015-12-09 23:03   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 16:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:00       ` Perry E. Metzger [this message]
2015-12-10 17:14         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:27         ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:33           ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 17:39             ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:10               ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 18:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:44               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 18:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 19:38                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:09                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:55                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:16                       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:18                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:36                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:01                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 21:26                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 23:35                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-11  1:14                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-12-11  6:27                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 22:56                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:46                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-13  0:16                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-13  0:32                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:20                                     ` Per Starbäck
2015-12-12 16:51                                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-12 17:42                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:01                                     ` Disabling visual lines for macros (was: Speed of keyboard macro execution?) John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:33                                       ` Disabling visual lines for macros David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:45                             ` Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:13                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 17:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:43           ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:15       ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-10 18:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12  2:14       ` Joseph Mingrone
2015-12-12  7:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 17:28           ` Joseph Mingrone
2015-12-12 17:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 18:12               ` Joseph Mingrone

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