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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 00:46:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egerjkn5.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2h9jns2c6.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Sat,  12 Dec 2015 14:56:41 -0800")

John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> I think we're presupposing what users want, and that is no reason to change a
>>> long-standing default.
>
>> I'm still waiting for a single example where the current behavior would be
>> actually useful for keyboard macro execution.
>
> If I don't come up with an example right now, it doesn't mean that it's not
> useful, only that I don't have an example.
>
> You're proposing a change to existing behavior, and I fail to see a
> compelling enough reason for that change. Not only is the new behavior
> not compelling to me yet, but the safety of the change (because it
> *does* change how existing macros behave) is definitely not compelling
> enough.

Changing the default font will already change how existing macros
behave.  Does that mean that we will not ever change the default font of
Emacs again?  Since that would make visual line movement end up in
different places than previously?

> Asking me to defend why the status quo shouldn't be changed has
> nothing to do with whether your suggested feature should become the
> new default.

Because currently keyboard macros become unpredictable as soon as line
movement commands are involved?

At any rate, it's obvious that there will neither be agreement, nor any
example where the current mode of operation would be desirable.

So we might as well let the matter drop.  It's only tangential to the
"Speed of keyboard macro execution" subject anyway.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-12 23:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-09 21:39 Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-09 22:13 ` David Engster
2015-12-09 23:03   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 16:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:00       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 17:14         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:27         ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:33           ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 17:39             ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:10               ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 18:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:44               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 18:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 19:38                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:09                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:55                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:16                       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:18                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:36                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:01                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 21:26                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 23:35                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-11  1:14                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-12-11  6:27                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 22:56                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:46                                           ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-12-13  0:16                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-13  0:32                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:20                                     ` Per Starbäck
2015-12-12 16:51                                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-12 17:42                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:01                                     ` Disabling visual lines for macros (was: Speed of keyboard macro execution?) John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:33                                       ` Disabling visual lines for macros David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:45                             ` Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:13                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 17:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:43           ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:15       ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-10 18:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12  2:14       ` Joseph Mingrone
2015-12-12  7:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 17:28           ` Joseph Mingrone
2015-12-12 17:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 18:12               ` Joseph Mingrone

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