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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: libnettle/libhogweed WIP
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:27:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d1cdwxt6.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8337daggnj.fsf@gnu.org

On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:32:32 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: 

>> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
>> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 16:48:39 -0400
>> 
TZ> * TODO from Eli: avoid allocating a scratch buffer and then copying its
TZ> data (inside make_unibyte_string) into a newly-allocated string.
TZ> Instead, use make_uninit_string.
>> 
>> I've done this as much as possible. For AEAD output, I'm not sure how to
>> set the length of an already-allocated string; I didn't want to modify
>> `s.size' directly. I didn't see a function or macro to do it. This is
>> needed for gnutls_symmetric_aead().

EZ> I'm not sure I understand what you say here.  In particular, I see no
EZ> s.size in gnutls_symmetric_aead.  What did I miss?

EZ> I do see some issues in gnutls_symmetric_aead with how you create Lisp
EZ> strings.  You first correctly call make_uninit_string, which gives you
EZ> a unibyte string with no contents.  Then you populate that string's
EZ> data by calling gnutls_aead_cipher_encrypt resp. decrypt functions.
EZ> But then you call make_unibyte_string with the resulting data, which
EZ> is redundant: you already have the unibyte string with the correct
EZ> data in the 'storage' variable.  So you should just return 'storage',
EZ> like you do in, e.g., gnutls_symmetric.

These two comments are related: for example, the decryption with
CAMELLIA-256-GCM produces less bytes of output that the input. But I
don't want to try to anticipate that byte count--it complicates the code
needlessly. So instead I want to cut the Lisp string `storage' to
`storage_length' bytes after gnutls_aead_cipher_{encrypt,decrypt}()
modifies `storage_length'. I can't find a macro or function to do it, so
I used make_unibyte_string() for now and am asking how to do it better.

EZ> I see your methods are still strings, whereas I suggested making them
EZ> symbols.  Any reasons why you didn't?

Forgot :) Done now.

EZ> A minor nit: in doc strings, please always leave 2 spaces between
EZ> sentences, not 1.

That was the auto reformat. Fixed, thanks.

EZ> Only data structures defined via DEFVAR are accessible to Lisp, so
EZ> keeping the data in C and providing accessors for Lisp programs will
EZ> achieve the result, I think.  The accessor could wipe the data after N
EZ> accesses.

OK, I'll work on that later.

>> 2) Could there be a built-in C way to let C core functions take strings,
>> but callers can invoke them with '(buffer-string) to tell *the core
>> function* to call that form. In other words, I want the eval to be done
>> at the C level, so that looking at the call tree won't reveal the actual
>> string that was passed to the function. I think that would simplify my
>> code and other C code too. I can probably fake it with eval()? WDYT?

EZ> Why not simply pass nil as the input, with the meaning that it stands
EZ> for the current buffer's text?  Or, better yet, pass START and END to
EZ> allow a substring of current buffer's text.  We do that in a lot of
EZ> places (for different reasons, of course).

EZ> IOW, I see no reason to involve the Lisp interpreter for this job.  Am
EZ> I missing something?

We're assuming that there's only three ways to pass data to the
function, and they can all be expressed in the parameters instead of
code: buffer-string, buffer-substring, and direct string. I think there
may be other use cases, but maybe I'm wrong? Streaming data, event
handlers, and coding system adjustments maybe?

This is not standardized for core C functions AFAIK; I don't want to
rewrite the first 150 lines of secure_hash() and extend them when I need
to support more ways to pass data. So I think this should be provided by
the core somehow, in a way that can be reused. I thought of the
following possibilities:

a) Could the core C functions use the `interactive' spec? That may be the
best way, but I don't know of any core C functions that use it.

b) Another way is to write a special core C function to interpret these
special parameters and give back text. I could start writing this
function with the first 150 lines of secure_hash() and then try to
standardize the parameters.

c) my earlier idea, to eval a form in the core C function, but that's
slow and awkward. It *could* be a little better for performance, if the
C function doesn't call the form when it's not needed. And it's very
flexible.

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-15 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-20 10:00 How to ship native modules? Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-20 15:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-20 16:01   ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-20 16:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-21  2:48       ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21  3:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-21  4:13           ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21 16:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-21 20:06               ` John Wiegley
2017-02-21 14:44       ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]         ` <CADtN0WLjNcFRLCsJNZX+XfqOcq+veTaoGkwHQCV9bjvuQoEORA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-21 15:48           ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21 17:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-21 16:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-02 14:59   ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed (was: How to ship native modules?) Ted Zlatanov
2017-03-02 15:19     ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed Stefan Monnier
2017-03-02 15:55     ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed (was: How to ship native modules?) Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-15 21:19       ` libnettle/libhogweed WIP (was: request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed) Ted Zlatanov
2017-03-16 15:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-17 22:46           ` libnettle/libhogweed WIP Ted Zlatanov
2017-03-18  8:12             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-03-20 18:45           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-11 20:05           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-14 20:48             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-15  9:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-15 14:27                 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2017-04-15 14:55                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16  2:39                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-16  6:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16  6:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 16:23                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 16:34                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 16:55                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 17:11                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 17:34                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 17:46                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 18:11                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 20:50                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 21:19                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-17 23:29                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19  2:08                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19  2:42                                       ` Noam Postavsky
2017-04-19 15:24                                       ` Davis Herring
2017-04-19 15:45                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 17:24                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-20 19:38                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 20:24                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-20 20:42                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-20 21:54                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-21  6:21                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-21 18:45                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-21 19:15                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-21  6:14                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-15 21:55                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-05-16 22:19                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-05-17 16:22                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-05-17 20:05                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-05-31 18:17                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-06-03  7:23                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-03  9:00                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-03 10:01                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-03 10:09                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2017-06-03 10:47                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-27 22:58                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-06-28 16:54                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-28 19:44                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-13 18:35                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-14 15:10                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-14 19:04                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-14 19:43                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-14 20:04                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-15 18:30                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-15  9:15                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-15 18:40                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-15 19:12                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-22  9:10                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26  6:58                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-26 14:52                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26 15:34                                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-26 15:49                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26 16:08                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-26 18:51                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-26 20:48                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-07-27  0:19                                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-27  2:34                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-07-27  4:36                                                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-07-27 15:56                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-03 19:52                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-03  8:02                                                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-03 16:49                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-18 17:44                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 12:22                               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-19 13:38                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 14:16                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-19 14:48                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-19 14:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 14:54                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-19 15:31                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 15:48                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-19 16:49                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-19 17:24                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 19:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20  2:30                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20  3:36                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20 15:46                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 15:59                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-20 16:24                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 17:25                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20 19:40                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-04-20 20:31                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 19:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 20:36                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-20 17:14                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-20 19:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-19 19:49                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-17 16:00                       ` rename STRING_SET_CHARS to STRING_SET_SIZE (was: libnettle/libhogweed WIP) Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-17 16:24                         ` rename STRING_SET_CHARS to STRING_SET_SIZE Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-17 16:29                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-17 16:34                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-04-16  3:37                     ` libnettle/libhogweed WIP Stefan Monnier
2017-04-16  6:19                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-04-16 13:20                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-04-16  7:47               ` Toon Claes
2017-03-02 17:58     ` request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed Paul Eggert
2017-03-02 18:33       ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-20 15:33 ` How to ship native modules? Aurélien Aptel
2017-02-21  4:50 ` Andreas Politz
2017-02-21  5:12   ` Elias Mårtenson
2017-02-21  5:23     ` Andreas Politz

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