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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>,
	 michael_heerdegen@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	 orontee@gmail.com
Subject: Re: master 2ef6f943abd: Add option to control default outlining in 'C-h b'
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 10:17:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878reft5vf.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h6t3vo47.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 25 Apr 2023 21:00:08 +0300")

>>>>> On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 21:00:08 +0300, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:

    >> >> So I see no reason to remove 'custom-function'.
    >> >> What could be done instead is to add a new choice
    >> >> 'custom-predicate'.
    >> >
    >> > The suggestion is not to remove custom-function.  The suggestion is to
    >> > require that the function returns a boolean, to mean whether to hide
    >> > or not to hide a heading, instead of requesting that the function
    >> > itself hides/unhides the headings.
    >> >
    >> > What is the purpose of requesting a custom function to actually
    >> > hide/unhide the headings, i.e. to know enough about the structure and
    >> > internal details of Outline mode to do its job?
    >> 
    >> How the user would be able to use 'outline-show-branches'
    >> in the custom function, and not to use 'outline-hide-entry'?

    Eli> Sorry, I don't understand the question and its relevance.  Maybe
    Eli> Robert does.

In the current implementation, the user is free to write a function
that uses any of the outline-show/hide functions to get the effect
they desire. If we replace that with just a predicate function, then
theyʼre effectively restricted to `outline-hide-entry' and
`outline-show-subtree'.

I guess we could add `predicate', to be checked before
`custom-function', if set. If we do that, we definitely need to
document which outline functions are available. 100% backwards
compatible as well 😄

Robert
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-26  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20230424114219.F2AEAC0004A@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org>
2023-04-24 13:08   ` master 2ef6f943abd: Add option to control default outlining in 'C-h b' Robert Pluim
2023-04-24 16:24     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-24 16:45       ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-24 18:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25  8:13           ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-25  1:13       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-04-25  6:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25  8:25           ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-25  9:09             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25 10:11               ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-25 11:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25 12:17                   ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-25 16:51                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-25 17:02                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-25 17:35                       ` Juri Linkov
2023-04-25 18:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-26  8:17                           ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2023-04-26  9:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-26 10:01                               ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-26 10:33                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-04-26 11:52                                   ` Robert Pluim
2023-04-25 18:32                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-05-29 13:16                         ` Robert Pluim
2023-05-30  1:08                           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-04-29  8:13     ` Eshel Yaron

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