Handshake: Org-mode + Emacs releases

Handshake: Org-mode + Emacs releases

[Jambunathan K]

Nicolas

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

> I have a half baked patch which allows to use export framework to handle
> radio tables. I'll try to complete it by the end of the year and propose
> it on the ML.

I see that you are adding features and doing a very quick iteration.
Nothing wrong with it and each sprint has been well-timed and planned.

I am a bit apprehensive that (what you think as) essentials MAY get
missed in Vanilla Emacs proper.  So it would be good if you could
communicate with Emacs developers the Org-mode features that you want
packed in the upcoming Emacs release.  (If this is already communicated,
well and good)

Stefan was indicating mid-December for the current release.  Needless to
say, having features bundled as part of pre-test builds would get more
beta-testing and coverage.

Re: Handshake: Org-mode + Emacs releases

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:

> I am a bit apprehensive that (what you think as) essentials MAY get
> missed in Vanilla Emacs proper.  So it would be good if you could
> communicate with Emacs developers the Org-mode features that you want
> packed in the upcoming Emacs release.  (If this is already communicated,
> well and good)

I am no maintainer so I cannot tell which Org revision should be merged
with Emacs.

FWIW, considering the 15 days time frame we have, I think 8.2.3 family
is stable enough (modulo some features that might be cherry picked from
master) and would be the obvious safe choice for a quiet end of year.

8.3 release (i.e. built from master) has some interesting features, but
may require more work from Org developers during pretest phase.

> Stefan was indicating mid-December for the current release.  Needless to
> say, having features bundled as part of pre-test builds would get more
> beta-testing and coverage.

That's true. Nevertheless, with the package system, I would say we
already have a good coverage at each release.

OTOH, I think that Org versions bundled with Emacs should focus on being
rock solid.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: Handshake: Org-mode + Emacs releases

[Jambunathan K]

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I am a bit apprehensive that (what you think as) essentials MAY get
>> missed in Vanilla Emacs proper.  So it would be good if you could
>> communicate with Emacs developers the Org-mode features that you want
>> packed in the upcoming Emacs release.  (If this is already communicated,
>> well and good)
>
> I am no maintainer so I cannot tell which Org revision should be merged
> with Emacs.

Just to clarify, I was interested in your comments as a developer who is
in-charge of org-element and ox & Co.  Essentially, I was asking a
convoluted question about the roadmap for features that you have taken
responsibility for vis-a-vis current Emacs release.

> (modulo some features that might be cherry picked from master) and
> would be the obvious safe choice for a quiet end of year.

Ok.  I am sure you will work this out with whoever is merging...

> FWIW, considering the 15 days time frame we have, I think 8.2.3 family
> is stable enough

> 8.3 release (i.e. built from master) has some interesting features, but
> may require more work from Org developers during pretest phase.

I take your answer to mean that you don't foresee anything substantial
to be added to the current feature set.

It's possible for you to buy time if you would like to see more
feature-lets added or stabilized.  

Re: Handshake: Org-mode + Emacs releases

[Bastien]

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

> FWIW, considering the 15 days time frame we have, I think 8.2.3 family
> is stable enough (modulo some features that might be cherry picked from
> master) and would be the obvious safe choice for a quiet end of
> year.

I just released 8.2.4 and merged it with Emacs.

We may have time for another merge for 8.2.5.

> 8.3 release (i.e. built from master) has some interesting features, but
> may require more work from Org developers during pretest phase.

Indeed -- let's not rush and let's polish 8.3 outside Emacs for now.

-- 
 Bastien