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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:34:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86zg5ixuv1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB4977C1BCFD886AFCE90F86CD964EA@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (Arthur Miller's message of "Fri, 02 Jun 2023 03:26:26 +0200")

> Basically that these were two discussions, one where Juri asked me about my
> experiences about running commands in other windows, and one about the
> patch. Juri dislike the idea of wrapping all commands into with-selected-window
> and is trying to find a way to transfer command execution to other window
> without need to wrap commands explicitly as I understand him, which I hope he
> will find.

If you ask me what would be an ideal UI, "UI of a dream", then
the answer is obvious.  Emacs already has such a rudimentary UI.
It works perfectly, but currently is limited to a tiny set of commands.

The key point of the existing "do-in-other-window" UI is that
no additional prefix keys are required, only a modifier key
to hold down while typing other-window navigation keys.

The current modifier key is 'M-'.  So while holding down the ALT key
you can use the navigation keys 'PgUp', 'PgDn', 'Home', 'End'
that browse the buffer in another window.  While doing this,
a natural wish appears to enable more navigation keys.
Why not enable arrow keys as well?  Why only 'M-PgUp' is supported,
but not 'M-up'?  Maybe the answer is that then some keys would conflict
with default keybindings, for example, with 'M-left'.

Such kind of problems found solutions in windmove.  For its
numerous keys it's possible to choose a dedicated modifier,
or a combination of modifiers.

So in the perfect UI, you could just hold down a modifier,
then type the usual keys that you would type if another window
was selected.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-02  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30  5:38 Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 12:54 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 13:31   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 15:22     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 17:29     ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-31  5:55       ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 17:13         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  3:16           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  6:35             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  7:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  7:20                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  9:03                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 14:01                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:16                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 13:45                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:26                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:34                             ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2023-06-02 15:11                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:29                               ` Yuri Khan
2023-06-02 16:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:09                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  7:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02 15:09                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:16                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 13:53                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 14:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 15:06                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 15:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 14:19                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:33                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04  7:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:04                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 16:13                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-03 13:49                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04  8:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:40                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-04 13:53                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:00                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-06-04 14:20                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:38                                       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:48                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  8:50               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 10:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 11:33                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:39                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01 19:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:10                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:41                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  6:31           ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-30 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31  6:38   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 18:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-05-31  6:06   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 13:00     ` Drew Adams
2023-05-31 13:27       ` Arthur Miller

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