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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 19:54:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <867csjuq01.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB4977C627BFC905FC9FFFB886964CA@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (Arthur Miller's message of "Sun, 04 Jun 2023 16:41:27 +0200")

>> Then 'SPC SPC SPC DEL' scrolls it from the *scratch* buffer.
>
> These are quite involved shortcuts. Think of people memorizing all that, and
> typing all that. In case one would repeat commands, isn't it just less key
> tapping to jumpt to window, do what is needed, and jump back. If we say
> Info-mode-map is on a key (my peronal M-i), for me it becomes M-i j,
> sequence of a one- or two-key combinations, and 'j' to jump back, regardless of
> what Emacs considers other window. Even with repeat-mode I don't see if saves
> much compared to just simply switching to the window? Or do I miss and
> misuinderstand?

This depends on the people's workflow.  Do most people need just to type
a single key in another window most of the time?  Then a global keymap
could save from typing a key to switch to another window.

> Could that function/implementation be made so that a highly hypothetical macro
> say "define-command", calls it somehow instead of actually generating the code
> in the user command? Otherwise it would be a lot of code duplication, which is
> why you don't like with-selected-window I guess? I would like the effect as in
> the above little piece of code, but not the exact implementation.

Indeed, code duplication would be unfortunate.  Ideally, all commands
should stay unchanged.  But since pre/post hook hack is unreliable,
this means creating a lot of wrappers like this

  (defun Info-menu-other-window (menu-item &optional fork)
    (interactive (with-selected-window (other-window-for-info)
                   (Info-menu-read-args)))
    (with-selected-window (other-window-for-info)
      (Info-menu menu-item fork)))



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-04 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30  5:38 Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 12:54 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 13:31   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 15:22     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 17:29     ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-31  5:55       ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 17:13         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  3:16           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  6:35             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  7:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  7:20                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  9:03                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 14:01                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:16                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 13:45                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:26                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:34                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 15:11                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:29                               ` Yuri Khan
2023-06-02 16:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:09                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  7:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02 15:09                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:16                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 13:53                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 14:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 15:06                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 15:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 14:19                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:33                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04  7:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:04                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 16:13                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-03 13:49                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04  8:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:40                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-04 13:53                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:00                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-06-04 14:20                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:38                                       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:48                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  8:50               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 10:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 11:33                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:39                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01 19:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:10                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:41                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:54                         ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2023-06-01  6:31           ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-30 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31  6:38   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 18:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-05-31  6:06   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 13:00     ` Drew Adams
2023-05-31 13:27       ` Arthur Miller

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