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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: juri@linkov.net,  manuel@ledu-giraud.fr,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 16:01:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977CFBDA00FF69E2E3D2B5996499@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pm6fcxrt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 01 Jun 2023 05:54:35 -0400")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  manuel@ledu-giraud.fr,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 11:03:57 +0200
>> 
>> Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>> 
>> >> What about using the "C-x 4" prefix?  We could define a new prefix map
>> >> bound to "C-x 4 h", then have all the bindings in *Help* be in the map
>> >> prefixed by "C-x 4 h".  For example, "C-x 4 h I" will run a command
>> >> which will produce the same effect as help-goto-lispref-info, using
>> >> the current *Help* window as its starting point.
>> 
>> If you are talking about help-map and help-mode-map, the help-map is already
>> bound to C-h, so you could then add help-mode-map on a 'h' key in help-mode as I
>> tested while I working with this. It gives you C-h h l for
>> help-goto-lispref-info which is one key shorter and it is easier to type then
>> C-x 4 h since you can just tapp 'h' twice instead of using another key.
>
> C-h map is quite full, and "C-h h" is already taken, so this proposal
> is a no-go.
>
> I suggested "C-x 4" because it is a prefix we use for many "do stuff
> in other window" commands, and this is a logical extension of that
> repertoire.  "C-x 4" is also convenient to type, and people who, like
> me, are used to invoke many "other-window" commands will get used to
> it instantly.  Most importantly, "C-x 4 h" is free for grabbing.

Yes, I understand that.

I personally find anything involving numbers to be slower to type then non-number
stuff, but might be me. However free for grabbing sounds like an unbeatable
argument in Emacs community, so sure; I said earlier I don't care personally, I
will anyway rebind it myself, so it was just a suggestion to rebind
hello-world-file to something else :).





  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-01 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30  5:38 Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 12:54 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 13:31   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 15:22     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 17:29     ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-31  5:55       ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 17:13         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  3:16           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  6:35             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  7:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  7:20                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  9:03                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 14:01                       ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2023-06-01  9:16                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 13:45                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:26                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:34                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 15:11                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:29                               ` Yuri Khan
2023-06-02 16:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:09                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  7:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02 15:09                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:16                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 13:53                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 14:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 15:06                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 15:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 14:19                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:33                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04  7:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:04                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 16:13                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-03 13:49                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04  8:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:40                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-04 13:53                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:00                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-06-04 14:20                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:38                                       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:48                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  8:50               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 10:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 11:33                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:39                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01 19:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:10                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:41                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  6:31           ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-30 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31  6:38   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 18:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-05-31  6:06   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 13:00     ` Drew Adams
2023-05-31 13:27       ` Arthur Miller

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