Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages

[Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>]

> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2022 10:14:10 +0100
> From: tomas@tuxteam.de
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > Before everyone starts presenting here that we made some nonsensical
> > decision when we added shorthands, let me remind us that it was added
> > to allow us to use packages like "s" (https://github.com/magnars/s.el),
> > "f" (https://github.com/rejeep/f.el) and other similar ones, which use
> > "problematic" function names.  We wanted to be able to use packages
> > which have dependencies of those, while at the same time providing
> > reasonably-named aliases for them.  (Gerd wasn't around back then, so
> > he is excused, but the rest of us were here, so please let's not
> > pretend those discussions never happened.)
> 
> I don't know who you mean by "us". I'm not pretending anything. I do
> know that discussion happened.

Well, may I suggest that you re-read your message, then?  "I had
similar feelings" can be easily interpreted as saying that no one took
such opinions seriously, or maybe that they were not discussed at all.
Which is not what happened.

People have short memories.  A discussion that happened 2.5 years ago
tends to be restarted for no good reason.  You dwell here long enough
to know that.  So when you respond to a request from someone who
wasn't here when those discussions happened, my recommendation is to
mention those discussions, so that this one at least had a good chance
of being a continuation of those ones, not a re-iterations of them.

I'm sorry to be a bit blunt, but the level of noise on this list is
unbearable.  I urge everyone to please keep that in mind, and make an
effort to lower the noise.