From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@is.elta.co.il>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 20:21:20 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8011-Tue12Nov2002202119+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200211121231.gACCV1MU030709@stubby.bodenonline.com> (jan.h.d@swipnet.se)
> From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:34:06 +0100 (MET)
>
> Maybe the help texts should be reviewed and expanded/removed as a
> result?
Yes, of course.
> Also, there is the problem with inconsistency. Some menu items have
> tips, other doesn't as pointed out elsewhere. I do agree with the
> view that the user might think something is broken when no tips
> appear for some things. For submenus there are no tips.
I think most of the problems are with menus defined by packages
outside menu-bar.el. In particular, packages maintained by their own
maintainers. I do agree that consistency is important (provided that
we agree about what should tooltips in menus do ;-).
> I do think tips can have a negative effect on menu item strings. It is
> too easy to make a menu with cryptic strings and then fully explain the
> items in the tip instead.
The main reason for tooltips in menus is that menu items are usually
limited in length. Tooltips can be longer, especially since the font
used for them is (or should be) smaller.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-11-12 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-11-07 19:39 Gtk version getting closer Jan D.
2002-11-08 0:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08 9:21 ` jasonr
2002-11-08 9:56 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-08 11:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08 10:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-09 14:27 ` Jan D.
2002-11-09 21:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-09 11:53 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 14:16 ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:19 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 15:05 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-11 10:19 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-11 18:36 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12 5:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-12 7:24 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12 17:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 4:40 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13 5:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 13:21 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 15:38 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 17:58 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:07 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 23:03 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 15:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-13 18:23 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 18:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 21:15 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 18:58 ` David Masterson
2002-11-13 16:52 ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-11-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 16:46 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-15 2:20 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 12:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
[not found] ` <m18EUbO-000IeAC@localhost>
2002-11-20 22:08 ` Bold by moving pixels problem Miles Bader
2002-11-21 0:21 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-21 1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-21 1:44 ` Miles Bader
[not found] ` <m18HRR2-000IeBC@localhost>
2002-12-17 5:00 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17 6:28 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17 7:08 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 10:01 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 12:26 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19 8:34 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 10:18 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:18 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19 11:27 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:25 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 13:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 11:02 ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 14:02 ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09 7:28 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 7:52 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 14:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-19 10:15 ` signal handling bogosities Miles Bader
2002-12-20 17:12 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-20 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-12-20 18:35 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-20 22:06 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-21 20:26 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-21 23:42 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-23 20:58 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-22 2:02 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-22 2:27 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-23 20:58 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-17 10:31 ` Bold by moving pixels problem Kim F. Storm
2002-12-17 16:38 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-17 23:54 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-16 1:34 ` Gtk version getting closer Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-12 12:34 ` Jan D.
2002-11-12 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2002-11-13 10:15 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 12:16 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 18:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:13 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:55 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-14 17:25 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 4:09 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 17:49 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 21:47 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 21:30 ` David Masterson
2002-11-16 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-16 16:11 ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 11:32 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-13 17:09 ` David Masterson
2002-11-14 17:31 ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:22 ` David Masterson
2002-11-16 1:34 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-18 5:06 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 2:36 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-15 4:04 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 16:36 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 18:46 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 21:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 22:35 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 17:33 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 18:55 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 23:18 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-16 0:44 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-15 18:00 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-19 13:26 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-20 21:13 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-20 21:56 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-21 0:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-22 21:00 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-21 0:38 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-21 13:09 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-21 14:08 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21 21:47 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 18:13 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 19:03 ` David Masterson
2002-11-09 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-10 9:02 ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:20 ` Richard Stallman
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2002-11-21 15:26 jasonr
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