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From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:21:18 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m18BxSI-000IeIC@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.1021113074135.28350A-100000@is> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 13 Nov 2002 07:42:58 +0200 (IST))

   On 13 Nov 2002, Miles Bader wrote:

   > The way I use tooltips is to pause over something and wait to see if
   > something pops up; if nothing does, I just think `oh there's no tooltip
   > for that.'

That makes sense.

The problem is not with experts, but with people just learning.  Such
people think that Emacs is broken when they don't see a tooltip.

For example, all the menu items in the `File' and `Edit' menus have
tooltips, but there is no tooltip for the `Expand Aliases' menu item
in the Mail mode menu.  (I myself just discovered this -- I normally
don't look at tooltips.)

The lack of an `Expand Aliases' menu item tool tip will hurt some
people, such as those who don't yet understand address aliases or are
confused by them.

The problem here is that it takes great talent both to be an expert
and to write tips that help a novice.  And to have interest in the
problem.

Perhaps someone from the Emacspeak contingent could and will help?
Emacspeak is intended not only for knowledgeable and determined geeks,
but also for ordinary people who cannot look at a screen.  (Do the
blind use a keyboard-only variation on the menus for sighted people,
such as that provided by `tmm-menubar'?)

Otherwise, I fear that Emacs will remain less well used than it should
be, and continue to possess a false, off-putting reputation.

--
    Robert J. Chassell                         Rattlesnake Enterprises
    http://www.rattlesnake.com                  GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
    http://www.teak.cc                             bob@rattlesnake.com

  reply	other threads:[~2002-11-13 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-11-07 19:39 Gtk version getting closer Jan D.
2002-11-08  0:08 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08  9:21   ` jasonr
2002-11-08  9:56     ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-08 11:25       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-08 10:36         ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-11-09 14:27         ` Jan D.
2002-11-09 21:29   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-09 11:53 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 14:16   ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:19     ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-09 15:05   ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-11 10:19     ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-11 18:36       ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12  5:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-12  7:24           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-11-12 17:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13  4:40             ` Miles Bader
2002-11-13  5:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 13:21                 ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2002-11-13 15:38                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 17:58                       ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 18:57                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:07                       ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:28                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 23:03                       ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 15:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 15:55                   ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-13 18:23                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-13 18:42                       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-13 21:15                         ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 18:58                       ` David Masterson
2002-11-13 16:52                   ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-11-14 12:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 16:46                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-15  2:20                       ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 12:29                         ` Robert J. Chassell
     [not found]                         ` <m18EUbO-000IeAC@localhost>
2002-11-20 22:08                           ` Bold by moving pixels problem Miles Bader
2002-11-21  0:21                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-21  1:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-21  1:44                                 ` Miles Bader
     [not found]                                   ` <m18HRR2-000IeBC@localhost>
2002-12-17  5:00                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17  6:28                                       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-17  7:08                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 10:01                                           ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 12:26                                             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19  8:34                                               ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 10:18                                                 ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:18                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-12-19 11:27                                                   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 12:25                                                     ` Miles Bader
2002-12-19 13:55                                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 11:02                                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-01-07 14:02                                                         ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09  7:28                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09  7:52                                                           ` Miles Bader
2002-12-18 14:25                                             ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-19 10:15                                               ` signal handling bogosities Miles Bader
2002-12-20 17:12                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-20 17:46                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-12-20 18:35                                                   ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-20 22:06                                                   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-21 20:26                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-21 23:42                                                       ` Alex Schroeder
2002-12-23 20:58                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-22  2:02                                                       ` Miles Bader
2002-12-22  2:27                                                   ` Miles Bader
2002-12-23 20:58                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-12-17 10:31                                       ` Bold by moving pixels problem Kim F. Storm
2002-12-17 16:38                                       ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-12-17 23:54                                         ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21  6:01                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-16  1:34                       ` Gtk version getting closer Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 12:16               ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-12 12:34           ` Jan D.
2002-11-12 17:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-13 10:15               ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 12:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 18:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 20:13                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 16:55             ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-14 17:25               ` Jan D.
2002-11-14  4:09             ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-14 17:49               ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-14 21:47                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 21:30                 ` David Masterson
2002-11-16  1:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-16 16:11                   ` Jan D.
2002-11-13 11:32         ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-13 17:09         ` David Masterson
2002-11-14 17:31           ` Jan D.
2002-11-14 20:22             ` David Masterson
2002-11-16  1:34               ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-18  5:06                 ` David Masterson
2002-11-15  2:36           ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-15  4:04             ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 16:36               ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 16:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 18:46                   ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 21:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-15 22:35                       ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 17:33                 ` Miles Bader
2002-11-15 18:55                   ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 23:18                     ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-16  0:44                       ` David Masterson
2002-11-15 19:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-11-15 18:00                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-19 13:26                   ` Miles Bader
2002-11-20 21:13                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-20 21:56                     ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-21  0:47                       ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-22 21:00                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-11-21  0:38                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-11-21 13:09                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-11-21 14:08                         ` Miles Bader
2002-11-21 21:47                           ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 18:13                 ` Jason Rumney
2002-11-15 19:03                   ` David Masterson
2002-11-09 21:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-10  9:02   ` Jan D.
2002-11-11 10:20     ` Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-21 15:26 jasonr

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