From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: bzg@gnu.org, excalamus@tutanota.com, van.ly+2020@sdf.org,
rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks?
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 21:05:29 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <575DFA37-17B0-4C14-8827-043CE1EDD039@traduction-libre.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83wo4k8r9s.fsf@gnu.org>
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 18:42, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>
>> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:50:33 +0900
>> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
>> excalamus@tutanota.com,
>> van.ly+2020@sdf.org,
>> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
>> emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>>>> What is missing in Emacs to make this possible?
>>>
>>> I don't know for sure.
>>>
>>> In the past, I was able to collaborate with a friend using an Emacs
>>> extension called "Rudel", which lets two distant buffers communicate
>>> with each other over the Gobby protocol.
>>>
>>> https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Rudel indicates that the reference
>>> implementation for the Gobby protocol is broken. I have not tried.
>>>
>>> So perhaps the required work is not on the Emacs side, but on that
>>> of the protocol and its implementation.
>>
>> It looks like SubEthaEdit, the text editor that first provided solid collaborative editing features on macos is now released under the MIT license and its communication protocol is documented on emacswiki:
>>
>> https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SubEthaEditProtocol
>
> What I think is missing is not the description of a specific protocol,
> but a higher-level spec of basic capabilities needed for the
> collaborative editing support in Emacs. Is this available anywhere?
> If not, could someone please write it up?
>
> For example, one thing that strikes me is why "collaboration" via a
> dVCS is not a good solution, or at least the basis of a solution? Am
> I missing something?
I am totally unable to talk about the technical aspect, but in fact, the software that I mention in the emacs for translators thread on help-gnu-emacs (OmegaT) actually uses Git or svn as the "engine" for collaboration.
The files that are shared on the git server are manipulated by all the collaborators who regularly commit their modifications and when there is a conflict, the collaborators are asked to resolve it. One collaborator commits are regularly reflected to the other collaborators so that the work proceeds with only a small lag between updates.
But I think what collaborative editing users have in mind is closer to an etherpad than to what OmegaT does.
--
Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune
http://mac4translators.blogspot.com
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2020-05-27 15:58 What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Van Ly
2020-05-28 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-30 7:17 ` Van Ly
2020-05-31 7:10 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-31 10:01 ` Van Ly
2020-05-31 12:49 ` excalamus--- via Emacs development discussions.
2020-06-01 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-01 5:21 ` Yuri Khan
2020-06-02 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-02 3:57 ` Karl Fogel
2020-06-02 5:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-02 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-01 9:11 ` Bastien
2020-06-01 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-01 23:32 ` Bastien
2020-06-01 23:50 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-06 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 9:58 ` tomas
2020-06-06 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 10:29 ` tomas
2020-06-06 14:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-06 14:58 ` Arthur Miller
2020-06-06 20:18 ` tomas
2020-06-06 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-06 9:59 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-06-06 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 10:18 ` tomas
2020-06-07 3:36 ` collaborative editing Richard Stallman
2020-06-07 9:28 ` tomas
2020-06-06 12:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary [this message]
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2020-05-12 7:22 ndame
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2020-05-12 7:13 ` ndame
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2020-05-13 1:50 ` Eduardo Ochs
2020-05-12 10:00 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-12 11:10 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-13 3:55 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-05-17 2:56 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-05-18 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-18 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-18 15:20 ` Filipp Gunbin
2020-05-18 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 9:10 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 11:07 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 11:49 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-05-14 3:01 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-14 4:08 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-14 10:01 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-14 16:35 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-17 1:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-18 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-28 4:00 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-28 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-28 17:19 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-28 18:05 ` Drew Adams
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2020-05-28 20:52 ` Alan Third
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2020-05-28 21:27 ` andres.ramirez
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2020-05-29 13:24 ` Arthur Miller
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2020-05-29 1:24 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-29 3:36 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-29 3:06 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-29 3:41 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-29 13:19 ` Arthur Miller
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2020-05-29 13:11 ` Arthur Miller
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