From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Alan Third <alan@idiocy.org>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, cwebber@dustycloud.org,
Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>,
ndame@protonmail.com
Subject: RE: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks?
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 20:36:54 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c3bbecf-f0fc-428c-aaf2-87e33da2b1d6@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7vzedns.fsf@red-bean.com>
> >A directory *is* a file.
>
> Not in a sense that's meaningful to most non-programmers. Even many
> programmers don't naturally conceptualize directories as files --
> especially those who have learned programming in the WWW era, since
> they haven't had to do much programming in which file<->directory unity
> matters.
Yes.
A directory is often _implemented_ using a file,
and files and dirs can be manipulated in many of
the same ways.
But it helps to let a user know when some operation
works for either one, as opposed to just one or the
other. Creating a new directory isn't the same
thing as creating a new file.
And Emacs reflects this in its prompts and doc
strings. Dired is just one example ("visit this
file or directory in another window").
And for users who are used to thinking in terms of
files and "folders" there's no conception at all
of a folder being a file, regardless of the
underlying implementation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-29 3:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-11 20:09 What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? ndame
2020-05-12 6:57 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-12 7:13 ` ndame
2020-05-12 12:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-12 13:07 ` ndame
2020-05-12 14:56 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-13 0:39 ` HaiJun Zhang
2020-05-13 1:34 ` Eduardo Ochs
2020-05-13 1:50 ` Eduardo Ochs
2020-05-12 10:00 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-12 11:10 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-13 3:55 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-13 10:32 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-14 5:11 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 10:34 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-15 3:25 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 8:15 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-16 4:18 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-16 22:07 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-18 3:45 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-18 8:05 ` Tramp and crypted files (was: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks?) Michael Albinus
2020-05-19 4:01 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-19 14:38 ` Tramp and crypted files Michael Albinus
2020-05-20 4:00 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-19 8:51 ` Deus Max
2020-05-19 14:48 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-20 8:27 ` Deus Max
2020-05-20 8:49 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-20 17:49 ` Deus Max
2020-05-20 19:09 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-25 18:48 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-26 4:13 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-26 7:13 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-27 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-28 13:05 ` Deus Max
2020-05-29 9:16 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-29 16:33 ` Deus Max
2020-06-07 15:08 ` Michael Albinus
2020-06-13 12:06 ` Deus Max
2020-06-13 13:15 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-29 18:22 ` Deus Max
2020-05-17 8:28 ` What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Michael Albinus
2020-05-12 11:57 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-05-12 15:34 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-12 16:33 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-05-12 17:39 ` Tramp nextcloud (was: What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks?) Michael Albinus
2020-05-12 18:12 ` Tramp nextcloud H. Dieter Wilhelm
2020-05-13 8:59 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-05-13 9:33 ` Tramp nextcloud (SOLVED) Eric S Fraga
2020-05-13 10:45 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-13 11:10 ` Eric S Fraga
2020-05-12 15:04 ` What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Arthur Miller
2020-05-12 16:00 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-12 12:30 ` Helmut Eller
2020-05-13 1:22 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
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2020-05-13 2:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-13 3:58 ` jao
2020-05-13 23:12 ` João Távora
2020-05-14 0:04 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-14 10:08 ` Helmut Eller
2020-05-14 10:17 ` tomas
2020-05-14 10:34 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-14 10:40 ` tomas
2020-05-15 3:25 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 3:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-15 3:25 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 3:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-16 4:18 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-16 9:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-17 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 6:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 4:18 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-16 7:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-16 12:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-17 2:56 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-17 7:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-18 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-18 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-19 3:56 ` shr.el rename? Richard Stallman
2020-05-19 5:50 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-19 12:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-05-19 15:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-19 16:47 ` T.V Raman
2020-05-20 3:59 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-20 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-18 15:20 ` What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Filipp Gunbin
2020-05-18 15:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 9:10 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15 10:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 11:07 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 11:49 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15 11:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 12:14 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-15 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-15 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-15 15:28 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-16 4:18 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-16 4:17 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-16 6:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-16 8:24 ` Yuri Khan
2020-05-17 2:56 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-14 11:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-12 12:44 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-13 16:36 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-14 3:01 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-14 4:08 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-14 10:01 ` Robert Pluim
2020-05-14 16:35 ` Christopher Lemmer Webber
2020-05-17 1:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-18 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-15 3:16 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-28 4:00 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-28 13:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-28 17:19 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-28 18:05 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-28 18:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-28 20:52 ` Alan Third
2020-05-28 21:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-28 21:10 ` Alan Third
2020-05-28 21:27 ` andres.ramirez
2020-05-28 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-29 13:24 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-28 21:14 ` Joost Kremers
2020-05-29 13:24 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-29 1:24 ` Karl Fogel
2020-05-29 3:36 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-05-29 3:06 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-29 3:41 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-29 13:19 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-30 5:23 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-05-29 13:11 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-13 17:48 ` ndame
2020-05-14 1:15 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-14 4:10 ` ndame
2020-05-14 4:28 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-15 10:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-17 5:37 ` ndame
2020-05-17 12:42 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-17 13:18 ` Arthur Miller
2020-05-19 3:47 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-17 22:03 ` chad
2020-05-13 21:05 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-05-14 14:35 ` Björn Lindqvist
2020-06-03 11:39 ` What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? A: Autocompletion Konstantin Kharlamov
2020-06-03 12:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-03 12:50 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2020-06-03 13:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-03 13:59 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2020-06-03 14:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-03 14:40 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2020-06-03 18:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-06-03 14:49 ` Drew Adams
2020-06-03 20:15 ` Konstantin Kharlamov
2020-06-03 20:36 ` Drew Adams
2020-06-03 20:49 ` Drew Adams
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-12 7:11 What is the most useful potential feature which Emacs lacks? Zhu Zihao
2020-05-12 7:22 ndame
2020-05-27 15:58 Van Ly
2020-05-28 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-30 7:17 ` Van Ly
2020-05-31 7:10 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-31 10:01 ` Van Ly
2020-05-31 12:49 ` excalamus--- via Emacs development discussions.
2020-06-01 3:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-01 5:21 ` Yuri Khan
2020-06-02 2:55 ` Richard Stallman
2020-06-02 3:57 ` Karl Fogel
2020-06-02 5:15 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-06-02 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-01 9:11 ` Bastien
2020-06-01 15:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-01 23:32 ` Bastien
2020-06-01 23:50 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-06-06 9:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 9:58 ` tomas
2020-06-06 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 10:29 ` tomas
2020-06-06 14:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-06 14:58 ` Arthur Miller
2020-06-06 20:18 ` tomas
2020-06-06 22:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-06-06 9:59 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-06-06 10:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-06 10:18 ` tomas
2020-06-06 12:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2021-03-04 11:46 Evgeny Zajcev
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