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From: "Jan D." <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
Cc: glen@organicdesign.org
Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs?
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 16:38:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2EB23665-91E3-11D7-BB9C-00039363E640@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2593-Thu29May2003170513+0300-eliz@elta.co.il>

>> I believe that Emacs key bindings are effectively preventing 99% or 
>> more
>> of Windows programmers and other younger programmers from ever using
>> it.
>
> I think you greatly exaggerate the difficulty of adapting to Emacs
> key bindings.

At my work there are many MS Windows users.  None had any trouble 
adopting
to Emacs.  Well, one, but he uses vim, so being a Windows user wasn't
a factor in that case :-)


>> * The kill ring should not be used.  Cut and copy and paste should
>> operate on the Windows clipboard

This assumes the MS Windows model is superior to Emacs.  I think it
is the opposite.

>> Do any of you share these views?  Why, or why not.  Who else cares 
>> about
>> this issue and what can we do to bring about this important change?
>
> AFAIK, many (most?) Emacs users (certainly its developers) want Emacs
> to work the same on all supported platforms.

Yes, this is a big advantage.

	Jan D.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-29 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1054178219.882.88.camel@morgan>
2003-05-29 14:05 ` Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-29 14:38   ` Jan D. [this message]
     [not found] <E19LPs9-0002b6-0o@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-05-29 20:57 ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-29 21:47   ` Miles Bader
2003-05-29 22:04     ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-29 22:45       ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  6:52         ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 10:11           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-05-30 10:32           ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-30 10:52             ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 12:06               ` Jan D.
2003-05-30 11:06             ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 11:19             ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-05-30 16:27               ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-30 17:09                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-05-30 17:13         ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-31 20:19         ` David Kastrup
2003-05-31 21:31           ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-01  0:14             ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 11:24               ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-01 12:12                 ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 19:36                   ` Jan D.
2003-06-01 19:43                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 20:18                       ` Jan D.
2003-05-29 23:58       ` Alan Shutko
2003-05-30  0:10       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-30  5:20         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30 17:29           ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30 19:55             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-02 21:27               ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-02 22:05                 ` David Kastrup
2003-06-03 16:25                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-03 20:28                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-02 22:42                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-03 16:26                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30  7:16         ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 13:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-31 19:52             ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-31 20:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-02 11:15                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-02 17:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-03 10:58                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-30 13:26           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  0:47     ` Tak Ota
2003-05-30  1:48       ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  5:19       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  6:09         ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 17:13       ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-30 19:58         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-01 15:52           ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-01 17:05             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-29 22:10   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30  5:13   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  6:33     ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  7:53       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  8:05         ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 13:26           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-04 11:20   ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-04 12:49     ` Lars Hansen
2003-06-04 13:08       ` David Kastrup
2003-06-05 12:13         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-06-05 21:46         ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05 21:55           ` David Kastrup
     [not found] <E19LWOR-0001eW-Nm@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-05-30  6:36 ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30  8:57 Lars Hansen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-06-05 12:45 Robert J. Chassell

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