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From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs?
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:10:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200305300010.h4U0AiNY018227@rum.cs.yale.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3ED68408.4080700@math.ku.dk

> I do not argue that we should implement MS Windows-like keybindings. I just
> argue that it should be easyer to change key bindings.

What exactly are you suggesting to make it easier ?
You'll get better feedback if you show us actual concrete problems
rather than philosophical arguments about how things should be easier.

I'm not sure what you mean by keybindings being hard to change,
but let's suppose it's because C-c, C-x and ESC are so pervasive
that you can't really move them.  I think you can solve this
using mappings such as:

(define-key key-translation-map [?\C-c] [control-c])

so that hitting C-c will now lookup bindings on the `control-c'
key which is completely free for you to use.

Or you can swap to keys:

(define-key key-translation-map [?\C-x] [?\A-x])
(define-key key-translation-map [?\A-x] [?\C-x])

so that all the C-x bindings are now actually on your Alt-x key
(assuming you have both Alt and Meta keys) and vice versa.

Very few applications are as flexible when it comes to configuring
key bindings.  If you don't like long-key-combos and prefer having
different modes, you can try M-x viper RET which offers a completely
different set of bindings which many people like.


	Stefan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-30  0:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E19LPs9-0002b6-0o@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-05-29 20:57 ` Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Lars Hansen
2003-05-29 21:47   ` Miles Bader
2003-05-29 22:04     ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-29 22:45       ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  6:52         ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 10:11           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-05-30 10:32           ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-30 10:52             ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 12:06               ` Jan D.
2003-05-30 11:06             ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 11:19             ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-05-30 16:27               ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-30 17:09                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-05-30 17:13         ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-31 20:19         ` David Kastrup
2003-05-31 21:31           ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-01  0:14             ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 11:24               ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-01 12:12                 ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 19:36                   ` Jan D.
2003-06-01 19:43                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 20:18                       ` Jan D.
2003-05-29 23:58       ` Alan Shutko
2003-05-30  0:10       ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2003-05-30  5:20         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30 17:29           ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30 19:55             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-02 21:27               ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-02 22:05                 ` David Kastrup
2003-06-03 16:25                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-03 20:28                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-02 22:42                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-03 16:26                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30  7:16         ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 13:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-31 19:52             ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-31 20:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-02 11:15                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-02 17:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-03 10:58                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-30 13:26           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  0:47     ` Tak Ota
2003-05-30  1:48       ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  5:19       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  6:09         ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 17:13       ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-30 19:58         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-01 15:52           ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-01 17:05             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-29 22:10   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30  5:13   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  6:33     ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  7:53       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  8:05         ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 13:26           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-04 11:20   ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-04 12:49     ` Lars Hansen
2003-06-04 13:08       ` David Kastrup
2003-06-05 12:13         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-06-05 21:46         ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05 21:55           ` David Kastrup
2003-06-05 12:45 Robert J. Chassell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-30  8:57 Lars Hansen
     [not found] <E19LWOR-0001eW-Nm@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-05-30  6:36 ` Lars Hansen
     [not found] <1054178219.882.88.camel@morgan>
2003-05-29 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-29 14:38   ` Jan D.

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