unofficial mirror of emacs-devel@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: "Robert J. Chassell" <bob@rattlesnake.com>
Subject: Re: Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs?
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 21:31:57 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m19MDxF-000IeAC@rattlesnake.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x5y90mq36k.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (David.Kastrup@t-online.de)

David.Kastrup@t-online.de (David Kastrup) wrote:

    A user interface is something like click with right mouse key on any
    menu entry and get a small submenu

No, that is not correct.  You are specifying a particular kind of user
interface for people who are sighted and who do not want to learn a
more efficent technique.

That is an important audience and Emacs should aim for it (as far as I
know, Emacs does not).

But at the same time, Emacs should also provide

  * a user interface for people who are permanently or situationally
    blind (Emacs does), and,

  * a user interface for people who desire to change more than three
    bindings at one time efficiently and who are willing to spend
    time, but less than the time of doing it awkwardly, learning how
    to do this (Emacs does, but GNOME/sawfish, as I found out
    yesterday, does not).

(Incidentally, I personally think the first "important feature" in the
etc/TODO list is more important than extending the user interface, but
the second "important feature" is less important.)

--
    Robert J. Chassell                         Rattlesnake Enterprises
    http://www.rattlesnake.com                  GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8
    http://www.teak.cc                             bob@rattlesnake.com

  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-31 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E19LPs9-0002b6-0o@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-05-29 20:57 ` Will default key bindings spell the death of Emacs? Lars Hansen
2003-05-29 21:47   ` Miles Bader
2003-05-29 22:04     ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-29 22:45       ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  6:52         ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 10:11           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2003-05-30 10:32           ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-30 10:52             ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 12:06               ` Jan D.
2003-05-30 11:06             ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 11:19             ` Juanma Barranquero
2003-05-30 16:27               ` Alex Schroeder
2003-05-30 17:09                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-05-30 17:13         ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-31 20:19         ` David Kastrup
2003-05-31 21:31           ` Robert J. Chassell [this message]
2003-06-01  0:14             ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 11:24               ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-06-01 12:12                 ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 19:36                   ` Jan D.
2003-06-01 19:43                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-01 20:18                       ` Jan D.
2003-05-29 23:58       ` Alan Shutko
2003-05-30  0:10       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-30  5:20         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30 17:29           ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30 19:55             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-02 21:27               ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-02 22:05                 ` David Kastrup
2003-06-03 16:25                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-06-03 20:28                     ` David Kastrup
2003-06-02 22:42                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-03 16:26                   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30  7:16         ` Lars Hansen
2003-05-30 13:10           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-05-31 19:52             ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-31 20:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-02 11:15                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-02 17:00                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-03 10:58                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-30 13:26           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  0:47     ` Tak Ota
2003-05-30  1:48       ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  5:19       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  6:09         ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 17:13       ` Richard Stallman
2003-05-30 19:58         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-01 15:52           ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-01 17:05             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-29 22:10   ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-05-30  5:13   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  6:33     ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30  7:53       ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-30  8:05         ` Miles Bader
2003-05-30 13:26           ` Kai Großjohann
2003-06-04 11:20   ` Andreas Schwab
2003-06-04 12:49     ` Lars Hansen
2003-06-04 13:08       ` David Kastrup
2003-06-05 12:13         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-06-05 21:46         ` Richard Stallman
2003-06-05 21:55           ` David Kastrup
2003-06-05 12:45 Robert J. Chassell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-30  8:57 Lars Hansen
     [not found] <E19LWOR-0001eW-Nm@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-05-30  6:36 ` Lars Hansen
     [not found] <1054178219.882.88.camel@morgan>
2003-05-29 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-29 14:38   ` Jan D.

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=m19MDxF-000IeAC@rattlesnake.com \
    --to=bob@rattlesnake.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).