From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, kurt@roeckx.be, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL.
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:11:55 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141028131155.07cb1f95@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvr3xsuomm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:52:55 -0400 Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
> > (I'll point out that given that the NSA "Ant Catalog" includes a
> > bunch of BIOS-inserted malware and other load-time infection
> > techniques. Secure booting is actually a priority for ordinary
> > people.
>
> How would secure-booting protect the user against BIOS-inserted
> malware? A Free BIOS would seem to be much more useful/effective
> for that purpose.
It is necessary but not sufficient to have a free software BIOS. You
also need to make it difficult to modify the BIOS without physical
access to the machine (unless the user has put in a particular jumper
and the new BIOS is signed by a key the user trusts or some such.
There are legitimate applications for remote BIOS upgrades, but not
for normal users.)
Note that there are interesting ways to exploit BIOS code even
without replacing it unless one takes great care -- see, for example,
the recent round of UEFI exploits.
However, as you note, we have gotten far afield from the topic.
Perry
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Perry E. Metzger perry@piermont.com
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2014-10-22 20:02 ` Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL Rob Browning
2014-10-22 20:05 ` Rob Browning
2014-10-23 14:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-23 15:57 ` Rob Browning
2014-10-24 13:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-02-20 15:28 ` Kurt Roeckx
2016-02-21 2:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-22 20:38 ` Bug#766397: " Antoine Beaupre
2017-04-16 17:28 ` Rob Browning
2014-10-22 20:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-22 21:02 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-23 16:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-23 17:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-23 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-24 7:01 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-27 19:42 ` Filipp Gunbin
2014-10-23 16:34 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-23 18:00 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 18:37 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 18:43 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 18:57 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 18:59 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 19:11 ` Kurt Roeckx
2014-10-23 19:42 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 19:50 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 20:26 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 21:05 ` Kurt Roeckx
2014-10-24 2:56 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 21:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-24 3:00 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-24 20:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-24 21:14 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-24 21:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-25 0:36 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-25 15:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-25 15:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-26 8:15 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-26 11:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-26 12:45 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-26 1:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-26 7:38 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-24 21:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-25 0:42 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-27 17:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-27 19:39 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-28 7:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-28 7:45 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-28 8:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-28 13:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-28 15:19 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-28 15:33 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-28 16:20 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-28 16:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-28 17:11 ` Perry E. Metzger [this message]
2014-10-29 3:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-28 15:10 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-29 2:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 3:06 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-29 7:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 11:19 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 19:03 ` Kurt Roeckx
2014-10-24 13:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-25 7:31 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-25 14:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-25 15:49 ` removing SSLv3 support by default from the Emacs GnuTLS integration (was: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL.) Ted Zlatanov
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