From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Cc: kurt@roeckx.be, Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>,
rms@gnu.org, Rob Browning <rlb@defaultvalue.org>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL.
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:48:34 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874muuihjh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141023154223.45f2c9eb@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com>
Perry E. Metzger writes:
> Free software has supported TLS 1.2 for a long time. What you're
> claiming is that you know of loads of people who have failed to
> upgrade their software -- but it is of course easy to upgrade if
> you run free software, because nothing prevents you from getting
> updated packages.
Wrong. Many people these days are using free software in corporate
environments where they need to get the new versions vetted by
corporate security.
You may not consider that a problem, but the people running those
sites do.
> Anyway, this attitude is why the NSA has such an easy time spying on
> the world. "We can't afford to have security, people might get
> inconvenienced for the length of time needed to upgrade their
> systems."
True. So what? It's a real effect, and your sneers aren't going to
affect their behavior.
Some problems are sufficiently severe that it's worth fixing them even
if it causes great inconvenience. This one (as I understand it from
posts here) is not.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-23 21:48 UTC|newest]
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2014-10-22 20:02 ` Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL Rob Browning
2014-10-22 20:05 ` Rob Browning
2014-10-23 14:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-23 15:57 ` Rob Browning
2014-10-24 13:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2016-02-20 15:28 ` Kurt Roeckx
2016-02-21 2:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-22 20:38 ` Bug#766397: " Antoine Beaupre
2017-04-16 17:28 ` Rob Browning
2014-10-22 20:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-22 21:02 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-23 16:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2014-10-23 17:29 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-23 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-24 7:01 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-27 19:42 ` Filipp Gunbin
2014-10-23 16:34 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-23 18:00 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 18:37 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 18:43 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 18:57 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 18:59 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 19:11 ` Kurt Roeckx
2014-10-23 19:42 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 19:50 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-23 20:26 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 21:05 ` Kurt Roeckx
2014-10-24 2:56 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 21:48 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2014-10-24 3:00 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-24 20:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-24 21:14 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-24 21:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-25 0:36 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-25 15:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-25 15:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-26 8:15 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-26 11:42 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-26 12:45 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-26 1:42 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-26 7:38 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-24 21:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-25 0:42 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-27 17:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-27 19:39 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-28 7:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-28 7:45 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-28 8:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-28 13:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-28 15:19 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-28 15:33 ` Florian Weimer
2014-10-28 16:20 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-28 16:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-28 17:11 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-29 3:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-28 15:10 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-29 2:33 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 3:06 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-29 7:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-29 11:19 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-23 19:03 ` Kurt Roeckx
2014-10-24 13:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-25 7:31 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-25 14:33 ` Perry E. Metzger
2014-10-25 15:49 ` removing SSLv3 support by default from the Emacs GnuTLS integration (was: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL.) Ted Zlatanov
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