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From: Kenichi Handa <handa@etl.go.jp>
Cc: d.love@dl.ac.uk, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu,
	keichwa@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Several serious problems
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 22:17:58 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200208261317.WAA27761@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200208241211.g7OCBW111768@wijiji.santafe.edu> (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 24 Aug 2002 06:11:32 -0600 (MDT))

In article <200208241211.g7OCBW111768@wijiji.santafe.edu>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>     I'm quite confused with the current status of utf-8.el,
>     ucs-tables.el, utf-16.el, utf-8-subst.el, etc in HEAD and
>     RC.

> Do you understand the situation in HEAD?

I don't understand what exactly do you mean by "situation".

I don't know if they are the same as what Dave currently
has.

I understand how each functions and variables are supposed
to work.  And, I know that those codes doesn't do definitely
wrong thing by reading through the codes briefly.

But, I have not checked if they surely works as
expected.  I believe Dave has done it.

And, I don't understand why those many functions/variables
are designed as the current way.  For instance,

(1) Why does loadup.el has this code:
	(ucs-unify-8859 'encode-only)
instead of:
	(unify-8859-on-encoding-mode 1)

(2) Why doesn't utf-8-subst.el provide mappings of
    non-Chinese characters for ksc, gb, and jisx charsets?
    The document of utf-8-translate-cjk says as below:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether the `mule-utf-8' coding system should encode many CJK characters.

Enabling this loads tables which enable the coding system to encode
characters in the charsets `korean-ksc5601', `chinese-gb2312' and
`japanese-jisx0208', and to decode the corresponding unicodes into
...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
but, currently only Chinese characters in those charsets are
handled.

(3) Why is utf-8-translate-cjk a variable, not a minor-mode
    like unify-8859-on-(de/en)coding-mode?  Or, why the
    latter is not a simple variable?   By the way, it seems
    that once we customize utf-8-translate-cjk to t,
    customize it back to nil doesn't cancel the translation.

(4) It seems that the variable name
    utf-8-fragment-on-decoding is not appropriate because it
    is used also in utf-18.el.  Perhaps,
    ucs-fragment-on-decoding is better.

(5) It seems that mule-utf-16 can handle the same range of
    characters as mule-utf-8, but `safe-charsets' property
    doesn't contain, for instance, `latin-iso8895-2'.
    Perhaps, this is simply a bug to be fixed easily.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@etl.go.jp

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-26 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-19  7:48 Several serious problems Kenichi Handa
2002-08-22 17:08 ` Dave Love
2002-08-29 13:25   ` Kenichi Handa
2002-08-29 17:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 23:15       ` Dave Love
2002-08-30 14:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-04 17:23           ` Dave Love
2002-08-30  6:09       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 17:30         ` Dave Love
2002-09-02  0:01           ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 17:15             ` Dave Love
2002-09-08 12:54               ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-12 22:38                 ` Dave Love
2002-09-13 19:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-25  7:01                   ` status of utf-8.el, etc [Re: Several serious problems] Kenichi Handa
2002-09-25 14:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-25 23:47                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-26 13:56                         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-27 13:22                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-28  3:19                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-27 13:59                           ` Dave Love
2002-09-27 15:24                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-09-28  3:20                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-04 22:26                               ` Dave Love
2002-10-05 16:59                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-10-11 17:21                                   ` Dave Love
2002-10-12  8:27                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-09-28  3:19                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-27 13:55                     ` Dave Love
2002-09-28  3:19                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-30  9:09                       ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-30 13:29                         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-10-01  7:37                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-01 20:03                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-10-10 12:25                               ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-04 22:38                           ` Dave Love
2002-10-04 22:32                         ` Dave Love
2002-10-09  1:26                           ` Kenichi Handa
2002-10-15 17:38                             ` Dave Love
2002-10-16  4:38                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-29 23:09     ` Several serious problems Dave Love
2002-08-30  6:11       ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-04 17:21         ` Dave Love
2002-08-29 23:17     ` Dave Love
2002-08-30  6:11       ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-31 17:31         ` Dave Love
2002-09-02  0:01           ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-02  1:28             ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-05 13:41               ` Dave Love
2002-09-05 23:32                 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-06 11:38                   ` Robert J. Chassell
2002-09-07 23:19                   ` Dave Love
2002-09-09  0:21                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-12 22:43                       ` Dave Love
2002-09-26  4:51                     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-09-10 16:36               ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-30  6:09     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-24 12:11 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-26 13:17   ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2002-08-26 16:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 23:18       ` Dave Love
2002-08-30 14:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-29 23:19     ` Dave Love
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-22 17:11 Richard Stallman
2002-07-22 19:01 ` Andre Spiegel
2002-07-22 19:03 ` Andre Spiegel
2002-07-23  4:00   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-22 19:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-07-23 18:58   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-22 19:11 ` Andre Spiegel
2002-07-23  4:42 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-24  3:25   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-24  4:43     ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-25  3:12       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-25  3:24         ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-26 15:35           ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-27  3:19             ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-29  1:12               ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-29 14:32                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-07-30  1:00                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-09  7:42               ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-09 16:08                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-10 17:16                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12 16:20                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-13  1:48                     ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-15  2:30                       ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-15  2:47                         ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-15  5:31                           ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-08-15 15:30                             ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-15 17:33                               ` Dave Love
2002-07-23 13:35 ` Kenichi Handa
2002-07-23 13:52   ` Alan Shutko
2002-07-24  3:25     ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-24  3:25   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-24  4:37     ` Kenichi Handa
2002-07-25  3:12       ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-25  5:53         ` Miles Bader
2002-07-26 14:29         ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-07-27 18:52           ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-09  7:43           ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-09  7:44       ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-10 17:16         ` Richard Stallman
2002-08-12  0:26         ` Kenichi Handa
2002-08-09  4:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2002-08-15 17:23   ` Dave Love

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