* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs @ 2008-11-10 15:38 ` Markus Triska 2008-11-10 22:13 ` Glenn Morris 2008-11-16 23:35 ` bug#1326: marked as done (23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs) Emacs bug Tracking System 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Markus Triska @ 2008-11-10 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-pretest-bug When I comment out or remove all forms in .emacs, and then do: emacs --eval "(customize-face 'default)" The customization buffer reads: To apply your changes, use the Save or Set buttons. However, neither of them is shown. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i386-apple-darwin8.11.1, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2008-11-05 on mt-computer.local Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version 11.0.40400000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default-enable-multibyte-characters: t ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-10 15:38 ` bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs Markus Triska @ 2008-11-10 22:13 ` Glenn Morris 2008-11-10 22:30 ` Markus Triska 2008-11-16 23:35 ` bug#1326: marked as done (23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs) Emacs bug Tracking System 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-10 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Triska; +Cc: 1326 Markus Triska wrote: > When I comment out or remove all forms in .emacs, and then do: > > emacs --eval "(customize-face 'default)" > > The customization buffer reads: > > To apply your changes, use the Save or Set buttons. > > However, neither of them is shown. Could it be that when you comment out all the lines in your .emacs, the tool-bar is shown? The tool-bar buttons, if visible, replace the in-buffer save/set buttons. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-10 22:13 ` Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-10 22:30 ` Markus Triska 2008-11-10 22:39 ` Glenn Morris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Markus Triska @ 2008-11-10 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 1326 Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes: > Could it be that when you comment out all the lines in your .emacs, > the tool-bar is shown? The tool-bar buttons, if visible, replace the > in-buffer save/set buttons. You're right, they are in the tool bar! It would be great if they were in the buffer as well, so that they can be reached with the keyboard. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-10 22:30 ` Markus Triska @ 2008-11-10 22:39 ` Glenn Morris 2008-11-10 23:29 ` Andreas Schwab 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-10 22:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Triska; +Cc: Chong Yidong, 1326 Markus Triska wrote: > You're right, they are in the tool bar! It would be great if they were > in the buffer as well, so that they can be reached with the keyboard. It was a deliberate choice to not put them in the buffer when the tool-bar is on: 2007-07-05 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> [...] (custom-buffer-create-internal): Insert action buttons only if tool bar is not used. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-10 22:39 ` Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-10 23:29 ` Andreas Schwab 2008-11-15 23:09 ` Glenn Morris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Andreas Schwab @ 2008-11-10 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Chong Yidong, Markus Triska, 1326 Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes: > Markus Triska wrote: > >> You're right, they are in the tool bar! It would be great if they were >> in the buffer as well, so that they can be reached with the keyboard. > > It was a deliberate choice to not put them in the buffer when the > tool-bar is on: > > 2007-07-05 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> > [...] > (custom-buffer-create-internal): Insert action buttons > only if tool bar is not used. What if the buffer is later displayed in a frame without a tool bar? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, schwab@suse.de SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany PGP key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-10 23:29 ` Andreas Schwab @ 2008-11-15 23:09 ` Glenn Morris 2008-11-15 23:29 ` Chong Yidong 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-15 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andreas Schwab; +Cc: Chong Yidong, Markus Triska, 1326 I'm inclined just to remove this feature; but I'm hoping to hear why it was added. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-15 23:09 ` Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-15 23:29 ` Chong Yidong 2008-11-15 23:57 ` Glenn Morris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Chong Yidong @ 2008-11-15 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, Markus Triska, 1326 Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes: > I'm inclined just to remove this feature; but I'm hoping to hear why > it was added. It was added to prevent redundancy between having buttons in the toolbar and functionally identical buttons in the button. Remove it if you like; I don't feel strongly about it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-15 23:29 ` Chong Yidong @ 2008-11-15 23:57 ` Glenn Morris 2008-11-16 14:28 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-15 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: Andreas Schwab, Markus Triska, 1326 Chong Yidong wrote: > It was added to prevent redundancy between having buttons in the toolbar > and functionally identical buttons in the button. Remove it if you > like; I don't feel strongly about it. I don't either; but I think Andreas's scenario, albeit unlikely, might be enough reason to remove it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-15 23:57 ` Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-16 14:28 ` Reiner Steib 2008-11-16 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2008-11-16 14:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris, 1326 On Sun, Nov 16 2008, Glenn Morris wrote: > Chong Yidong wrote: >> It was added to prevent redundancy between having buttons in the toolbar >> and functionally identical buttons in the button. Remove it if you >> like; I don't feel strongly about it. > > I don't either; but I think Andreas's scenario, albeit unlikely, might > be enough reason to remove it. Here's another reason: The icons are not (and probably cannot be) clear enough. You have to hover over them and read the tool-tips to find out what they do. (Maybe it's worth to make it customizable.) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs 2008-11-16 14:28 ` Reiner Steib @ 2008-11-16 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2008-11-16 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 1326 >>> It was added to prevent redundancy between having buttons in the toolbar >>> and functionally identical buttons in the button. Remove it if you >>> like; I don't feel strongly about it. >> >> I don't either; but I think Andreas's scenario, albeit unlikely, might >> be enough reason to remove it. I agree that this "feature" might better be removed (i.e. the redundant bindings should be left alone). It's not like Emacs never has redundant ways to get at something. Stefan PS: Some other redundancies that come to mind are the major&minor mode menus that are present both in the menu bar and by clicking on the mode's lighter in the mode-line. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* bug#1326: marked as done (23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs) 2008-11-10 15:38 ` bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs Markus Triska 2008-11-10 22:13 ` Glenn Morris @ 2008-11-16 23:35 ` Emacs bug Tracking System 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Emacs bug Tracking System @ 2008-11-16 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 892 bytes --] Your message dated Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:30 -0500 with message-id <fkr65bw8rl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> and subject line Re: bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs has caused the Emacs bug report #1326, regarding 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact don@donarmstrong.com immediately.) -- 1326: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1326 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact don@donarmstrong.com with problems [-- Attachment #2: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 2763 bytes --] From: Markus Triska <markus.triska@gmx.at> To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:38:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <20081110153830.C8E7EB8030A@mt-computer.local> When I comment out or remove all forms in .emacs, and then do: emacs --eval "(customize-face 'default)" The customization buffer reads: To apply your changes, use the Save or Set buttons. However, neither of them is shown. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.2 (i386-apple-darwin8.11.1, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2008-11-05 on mt-computer.local Windowing system distributor `The XFree86 Project, Inc', version 11.0.40400000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default-enable-multibyte-characters: t [-- Attachment #3: Type: message/rfc822, Size: 1891 bytes --] From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> To: 1326-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: Re: bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:28:30 -0500 Message-ID: <fkr65bw8rl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> I've removed this feature - now the in-buffer buttons are always shown. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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