From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1326: 23.0.60; Customizations cannot be saved with empty .emacs Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:28:09 +0100 Message-ID: <8763mnsq2u.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <20081110153830.C8E7EB8030A@mt-computer.local> <7lljvr1a0o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87r65co9f4.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Reply-To: Reiner Steib , 1326@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226847029 1735 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2008 14:50:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:50:29 +0000 (UTC) To: Glenn Morris , 1326@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 16 15:51:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L1iyH-0006uY-1w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:51:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49216 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L1ix8-0005s5-QR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:50:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1ix3-0005rq-Na for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:50:13 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L1ix2-0005rI-99 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:50:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57476 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L1ix2-0005rE-1S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:50:12 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:51765) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L1ix1-0000xT-IJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:50:11 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAGEo82U028046; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:50:08 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id mAGEZ25C023983; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:35:02 -0800 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Reiner Steib Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 1326 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1326-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1326.122684569922565 (code B ref 1326); Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:35:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1326) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Nov 2008 14:28:19 +0000 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de (mail.uni-ulm.de [134.60.1.11]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id mAGESFkA022559 for <1326@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:28:16 -0800 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.175]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAGESDl6006456; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:28:13 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1E01C879; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:28:12 +0100 (CET) X-Face: .*T0'iU(sujq_j9\J>-d4fg; N/1++U#U$_5ii6k.=|"-n'?5O:Hyz&wi'-!I~,}7~GgT=0S /&-R5sbkNy5+Xo1y{Tw2KKxi@Xh"g@]Qc|.U<*]WDd)qvGowFDvfU1F]{EDho:7P0@|oOD=Bc{K4?> WP68K[Mx:}=`ZT'6g4'f+g?;`vri2!)xGy}3:=l'(/Cea0l4lo^H5#@/Z3ev Mail-Followup-To: Glenn Morris , 1326@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-CTc-dcc2-Metrics: poseidon 1031; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:50:13 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:22411 Archived-At: On Sun, Nov 16 2008, Glenn Morris wrote: > Chong Yidong wrote: >> It was added to prevent redundancy between having buttons in the toolbar >> and functionally identical buttons in the button. Remove it if you >> like; I don't feel strongly about it. > > I don't either; but I think Andreas's scenario, albeit unlikely, might > be enough reason to remove it. Here's another reason: The icons are not (and probably cannot be) clear enough. You have to hover over them and read the tool-tips to find out what they do. (Maybe it's worth to make it customizable.) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/