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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: "47150@debbugs.gnu.org" <47150@debbugs.gnu.org>,
	Sheng Yang <styang@fastmail.com>
Subject: bug#47150: [External] : bug#47150: 28.0.50; Incorrect major-mode in minibuffer
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 13:10:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvh7kbcu3a.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YHRyGiTt7h1KsD/+@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Mon, 12 Apr 2021 16:15:22 +0000")

> Why?  Until very recently (? 2 months ago), minibuffer-inactive-mode
> served for both active and inactive MBs.

No: it was *activated* every time the minibuffer became inactive (and
not when the minibuffer was becoming active), and its keymap was only
active when the minibuffer was inactive.

The keymap and the hook are the main two features of
`minibuffer-inactive-mode`.

> The idea here is to avoid the proliferation of unneeded major modes.

Major modes are cheap.  There is no problem with proliferation.

> We don't seem to need two distinct modes here for the minibuffer.

The two situations are very different, where the users expect very
different behavior.

> This is pretty much, but not quite, the same as how things were up until
> recently.

No, it's completely different: the difference may seem minor, but
this minor reason is the raison d'être of `minibuffer-inactive-mode`, so
what you're suggesting is, in practice, the removal of
`minibuffer-inactive-mode`.


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-12 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-15  0:57 bug#47150: 28.0.50; Incorrect major-mode in minibuffer styang
2021-03-15  1:02 ` bug#47150: Emacs bug#47150 " Sheng Yang
2021-03-15  7:59 ` bug#47150: " Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-15 18:15   ` Sheng Yang
2021-03-15 21:30     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-15 21:58       ` Sheng Yang
2021-03-22 15:12         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 15:52           ` bug#47150: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 16:27             ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 17:09               ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <878s6ft5ze.fsf_-_@miha-pc>
2021-03-22 18:38                   ` bug#47150: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 21:57                 ` bug#47150: [External] : " Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 23:06                   ` Drew Adams
2021-03-23 13:05                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-23 15:44                       ` Drew Adams
2021-03-22 18:12         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 18:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 18:40         ` bug#47150: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 19:30           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 19:42             ` Drew Adams
2021-03-22 20:11               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 21:36                 ` Drew Adams
2021-04-09  8:57                   ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-12 10:18                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-12 12:02                       ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-12 14:01                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-12 16:15                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-12 17:10                             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2021-04-12 18:34                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-12 20:46                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-18 11:14                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-18 15:22                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19  9:33                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-19 17:30                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-19 18:22                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19 19:18                                             ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-19 19:35                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19 19:47                                                 ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-19 20:36                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19 20:42                                                     ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-20 10:25                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 19:42         ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 20:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 18:24 ` bug#47150: [External] : " jakanakaevangeli
2021-03-23  7:18 ` bug#47150: [External] : " jakanakaevangeli

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