From: "Sheng Yang" <styang@fastmail.com>
To: "Alan Mackenzie" <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 47150@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#47150: 28.0.50; Incorrect major-mode in minibuffer
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 16:58:04 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <05c43a83-6e3c-4f10-a36f-0567bcceb3f6@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
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Hi Alan,
Thanks for the detailed explanation, everything makes sense now. I still would like to clarify the following
> As you say, there is (minibufferp). What is wrong with that?
>
> That does indeed suggest we really want a minibuffer-mode, rather than
> just fundamental-mode. But surely, the parenthesis pairing will be
> dependant on the sort of text you're typing into the minibuffer, so it
> can't really be connected with, say, minibuffer-mode.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, here. How will the use of
> (minibufferp) prevent anything else?
I am not suggesting anything wrong with (minibufferp). What I have in mind is that it would be better if there is a mode for the minibuffer, so that existing packages can still use *-modes, *-global-modes, *-inhibit-modes, etc. to decide whether to enable or disable some functionalities. I checked the several packages I mentioned, they either compare major-mode with minibuffer-inactive-mode directly, or use some *-modes variable that checks the major-mode. Their maintainers' life will be easier comparing to the case where only (minibufferp) is available and they are forced to make a corner case for the minibuffer.
> I hope my description in this post is satisfactory.
Yes, crystal clear!
> So, a quick summary: (i) the change in the minibuffer's major mode to
> fundamental-mode was intended; (ii) there may be some problems in some
> packages because of this; (iii) we aren't yet in agreement on how to
> proceed with this bug report.
(i)(ii) agreed.
(iii), I am mostly in support of removing minibuffer-inactive-mode and minibuffer-inactive-mode-map, and give the minibuffer a proper mode. This way, the maintainers' life will be easier. Another option is still remove minibuffer-inactive-mode and minibuffer-inactive-mode-map, but keep minibuffer in fundamental mode. What do you think?
Sheng Yang(杨圣), PhD
Computer Science Department
University of Maryland, College Park
E-mail: styang@fastmail.com
E-mail (old but still used): yangsheng6810@gmail.com
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-15 0:57 bug#47150: 28.0.50; Incorrect major-mode in minibuffer styang
2021-03-15 1:02 ` bug#47150: Emacs bug#47150 " Sheng Yang
2021-03-15 7:59 ` bug#47150: " Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-15 18:15 ` Sheng Yang
2021-03-15 21:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-15 21:58 ` Sheng Yang [this message]
2021-03-22 15:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 15:52 ` bug#47150: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 16:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 17:09 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <878s6ft5ze.fsf_-_@miha-pc>
2021-03-22 18:38 ` bug#47150: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 21:57 ` bug#47150: [External] : " Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 23:06 ` Drew Adams
2021-03-23 13:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-23 15:44 ` Drew Adams
2021-03-22 18:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 18:40 ` bug#47150: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-03-22 19:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 19:42 ` Drew Adams
2021-03-22 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 21:36 ` Drew Adams
2021-04-09 8:57 ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-12 10:18 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-12 12:02 ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-12 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-12 16:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-12 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-12 18:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-12 20:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-18 11:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-18 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19 9:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-19 17:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-04-19 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19 19:18 ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-19 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19 19:47 ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-19 20:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-04-19 20:42 ` Sheng Yang
2021-04-20 10:25 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 19:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-03-22 20:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-03-22 18:24 ` bug#47150: [External] : " jakanakaevangeli
2021-03-23 7:18 ` bug#47150: [External] : " jakanakaevangeli
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